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13 info vs 30 info ww mismatch

eehbee

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Hey guys. We had a lot of mismatches. They were once in a while and we lost 10 to 40 glorys in those wars. And we didn't complain about them. But this is beyond ridiculus. We have 13 info ages and our rival has 30!

And it is not the worst part. We encountered them two times in a row.

And also it is not the worst part.

WE WERE THE FAVORITE TEAM AND WE LOST 631 GLORY IN TWO WARS.

This needs an explanation. How can we match with them twice and how can we be the favorite team.

We've lost our rank in top 100. This is frustrating. If it is not fixed we can not enjoy this game anymore.

Our competitor also said that this situation is not making them happy. Because we are not a worthy opponent for them.

At the bottom line we need an explanation. And we need it from dev team. Not from cs.
 

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oddin

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this is very frustrating and we all have been in your shoes.

However, there are a few things that need clarification:

1. the team ARES Airborne is full of top 10 players that just migrated to a low glory alliance.
2. that team is sniping glory points from alliances like yours and it sucks but they have every right to do it and nobody can stop it from happening.
3. the dev team cannot possibly foresee this behavior nor code the algorithm to prevent such extreme cases. If they could, they would had already done it in the past.

in other words.... you are f*****d up ....:) just try to enjoy it!!
 
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eehbee

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Hey guys, we are not upset about losing. At the end we are a top 100 alliance. We didn't climb up there without losing. Also we lost against Ares Energy Last month. It didn't bothered us at all. Because we lost 9 (only nine) glory.

The main point here is we are losing to the same team with a new name and we are losing 631 glory in two ww.
We opened this topic because we were the favorite side at both ww.
It should be an error or a bug or at least an improvement point for the gameplay.

And we know some Ares members. We are in contact with them. They are not happy about this situation either. Because we are no match for them.

​​​I believe ​​​​It is not something that they intended to do but it is happening anyway. We can war with ares sometimes, it is a league matching system at the end but we shouldn't be the favorite team.

And unfortunately we couldn't get any decent answer from cs. They are copy pasting the same answer continuously.
 

oddin

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there never was a FAVORITE alliance in any war . This thing does not exist in dominations.
The glory given or taken is only calculated through a formula that takes your current glory and your opponents glory as main variables. That's all.

just a random example

Alliance A glory: 18933
Alliance B glory: 14991

(59+581) / (1+10^(18933-14991/4000))
(640)/(1+10^0,9855)
640/10.6716372665
~59.97 WIN

(59+581) / (1+10^((14991-18933)/4000))
580.02 LOSS

Glory gained in case of win: +59
Glory loss in case of defeat: -581
 

oddin

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sorry it has been way too long since I had a conversation about the glory formula and i do not remember who gave this to me and why it is like this.
I do know that whenever I wanted to double check the glory, it always ended up with the right glory gain/loss.

But lets work this out together

our current war is against AVANTE BR

Our glory is 23618
Their glory is 23584

(320) / (1+10^((23584-23618)/4000)) = 161.56
(320) / (1+10^((23618-23584)/4000)) = 158.43

which is exactly what we see in the war screen
we will gain158 glory if we win
we will lose 162 glory if we lose
 

B like Big Bug

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First:It is possible that two alliances are matched together. It has happened three times. Randomly or as Snipe.
then:you can change number of players sometimes to avoid this(or start thme).remember tger are not a lot of alliances in 30v30 p.also in game.
And:glory has not furmola.sometimes i saw ,weak low glory allianc lost higher glory.
Usually the average weight of the accounts is calculated. Of course, there are so many things.in top 100 ,most of accounts are same.(Drone age).
Out of The top 100, the results are acceptable. If sometimes the opponent is strong, it is sometimes weaker. Most of The time are in a same level.
but a way,ww matchmaking system in so better than past.its fair offen.
 
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