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Big Shoutout to Space Age Players with Full Refinery

LordStark263AC

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No one in low medal league is going to leave their Oil Refinery outside. I'm in Dynasty league and maybe 1 in 30 Bases have Oil Refinery sitting outside of walls.
 

pckrn

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i have all my resource buildings on one side of the map, exposed and undefended except for the 8 infantry that spawn from the town center.

i didnt do this out of kindness of my heart or anything, i want attackers to loot as much as they can from me, so that i can get as much as possible in loot refund, so that i can store 100k+ oil in my defense log, so that i can be sitting on 400k oil for days rather than sitting on 280k oil for days.
 
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LordStark263AC

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Wow! That never crossed my mind. Very good. I'm gonna start doing this from now on.
 

Ulysses

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No, wait! Huh?! That sounds too good to be true.
I'm not running any Museum artefacts with loot refund so I don't know how the mechanics work.
You mean, if we display a loot refund artefact it 'collects' a portion of stolen resources and just gives it back when we next log on?
Is there a limit to the amount we can get back? My refinery can only hold 280k oil.
Thanks for the tip! Very cool :)
 

AbbyVille

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I maxed out on oil and itโ€™s been offering at 12-13k on average. Iโ€™m going to leave it out, youโ€™re more than welcome to come get it. Some leaders made off with 20k+ from me and I welcomed it.

It takes 12 days plus to upgrade anything with oil for me and only takes 3-4 hours to go from 0-280k for me. If you need it take it.

Do me a favor, come back and let us know how much you help yourself and I with the load. Leave the gold and food as papa still needs the wall ;)

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pckrn

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Ulysses it works like storage blessing. the returned rss will be in the defense log, separate from your regular rss storage, that you dont have to collect until you have like 40 logs piled up. downside: cannot watch defense replay or attempt revenge if you dont collect
 

JustAnotherPlayer

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pckrn Big thanks for that tip. My museum artifacts allows me the maximum refund of 85% of ress stolen. I'm gonna put my oil outside just to see if it works. I've just maxed all my supersonic bombers,so I'm feeling charitable..
 

Ulysses

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Ah I see. So the game 'stores' your refunded stolen resources in the replay messages?
Omg your strategy is totally ingenious! I gotta try this!
How high do we need to work up our museum 'looted resource refund' for this to make sense?
If a guy steals 10k oil, we don't lose 10k oil do we? I'm assuming we don't have to get upto 100% refund for this strategy to work out...?
 

pckrn

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Ulysses even with just two artifacts with 1 line each it makes a difference. a SA refinery can lose up to 7k oil. any further loot comes from uncollected oil wells which is separate from your oil stockpile, and any loot bonuses the attacker has, which is also separate from your oil stockpile
 

Ulysses

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Whoah! Nice refunds there, Stark!

What sort of loot refund % are you running? Am trying to figure how many loot refund artefacts I need to build up...

Thanks! (and huge thanks AbbyVille for the original idea. It's genius!)
 

Ulysses

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Thanks pckrn! Hmm, I'm super curious now.

Does the Museum 'loot refund' simply refund x% of the amount that your loot was reduced by during a raid?

Or does it refund x% of the amount of loot that was stolen (which might be significantly boosted by eg. 'all resources looted' multipliers in the attacker's Museum?)

AbbyVille's idea could be a very lucrative tactic...
 

LordStark263AC

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I have 2 Refund artifacts, 1 artifact 20% on 2 lines & 1 artifact 22% on 2 lines. With Storage Blessing (25% or so) takes my total to 65% Refund. Its not the best but I'm happy with it.
 

King Crimson

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I have 2 Refund artifacts, 1 artifact 20% on 2 lines & 1 artifact 22% on 2 lines. With Storage Blessing (25% or so) takes my total to 65% Refund. Its not the best but I'm happy with it.
Doesn't the attacker have to do like 10% damage in the attack for the refund to work? I thought I read that somewhere.
If yes, then how often do you get those frustrating attacks that don't trigger the refund?
 

LordStark263AC

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In Dynasty league when a player hits your base, they hit hard and true. Although I'm climbing down the league. I'm tired of hitting savage bases in 3400 medal league. Need easier targets.

Also I keep my Town Centre outside for easier Peace Treaty. PCKRN keeps his Oil Refinery unprotected for a better Refund. So that's what I started doing.
 
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