Bombers are way out of control

[Super Val]

I was just attacked by someone with a +300% bomber hit point, and he set American coal for an extra 68%! Amazing! He used 5 bombers, 3 recons and 2 tups, of course with infiltrators and demos, and smashed my “used to be” untouchable base in 2 min 8 sec!
I guess BHG have done a great work with bombers! Still need tho to add few more bombers artifacts, so they help attackers going below 2 min! A new challenge to think about!

 

[King Crimson]

Yeah but each time a certain strategy becomes more powerful, I need to catchup on upgrading those troops. Not to mention get artifacts and councilors setup etc. I've never paid in this game so it's always the long game for me.

Same here, we all had to do it. I slowly upgraded my unused troops and uni when I had excess rss/citizens so at some point you'll have other options available. Play the long game.

 

[Deosbrae]

I was just attacked by someone with a +300% bomber hit point, and he set American coal for an extra 68%! Amazing! He used 5 bombers, 3 recons and 2 tups, of course with infiltrators and demos, and smashed my “used to be” untouchable base in 2 min 8 sec!
I guess BHG have done a great work with bombers! Still need tho to add few more bombers artifacts, so they help attackers going below 2 min! A new challenge to think about!

Tbh 2:08 is considered as a slow hit now

 

[Husher]

For me. The game was for a long time, attack focused. Then for whatever reason the manufactory was introduced. That one building changed the defense for the entire game. Its buffs are ridiculous. I get nerfing things and making adjustments based on outcomes. Unfortunately, this one building eliminates the variety of attacking styles made possible. Bombers are fun. They just are. They are risky to use, but man are they fun. They make you set up your air defense in a manner that works best to protect your base.

 

[Husher]

Still. Seek, just try to find a post where you were happy about anything BHG does. It’s not trolling.

 

[Seek]

Still. Seek, just try to find a post where you were happy about anything BHG does. It’s not trolling.

See that is where you wrong sir, I have been happy few of the newer improvements i like the strike I am even cool way showcase was done and was extremely happy with Customer Service response when I lost a bunch of legendary artifacts. I even thanked and complimented them for their quick response. I like the legendary artifacts being released yea I want them to completely release even the newest one but I get it their new. So yea not everything BHG does is bad.

I am unhappy with balance at end game levels, the mythical that are inferior in gains compared to offense and the lack of adjustments made. Yes I stated them loudly but when BHG does do stuff I usually try to say something good. But I get it balance has been broke and I am even tired of hearing myself complain about it.

Feel free to think it is me complaining to troll them it’s not. I am just wanting a fair chance to play which is currently not the case for end game defenders

As for mid to lower levels you will start to feel the balance issues soon enough now that they release 98% of war legendary and more players get mythical artifacts

Now you have a good night there Husher

 

[King Crimson]

For me. The game was for a long time, attack focused. Then for whatever reason the manufactory was introduced. That one building changed the defense for the entire game. Its buffs are ridiculous. I get nerfing things and making adjustments based on outcomes. Unfortunately, this one building eliminates the variety of attacking styles made possible. Bombers are fun. They just are. They are risky to use, but man are they fun. They make you set up your air defense in a manner that works best to protect your base.

Many people would argue that the manufactory defensive buffs were long overdue. And maybe it did push a little too far over the line but as it stands now a bomber strong army is too easy to use against almost all bases.
So we have some under-utlised troops (for people complaining O is too weak) and we have an OP bomber army (for people complaining O is too strong) - not exactly what you would call 'balanced'.

 

[Seek]

For me. The game was for a long time, attack focused. Then for whatever reason the manufactory was introduced. That one building changed the defense for the entire game. Its buffs are ridiculous. I get nerfing things and making adjustments based on outcomes. Unfortunately, this one building eliminates the variety of attacking styles made possible. Bombers are fun. They just are. They are risky to use, but man are they fun. They make you set up your air defense in a manner that works best to protect your base.

As for setting up Air Defense well what is that? All Air Defense get taken out by commando or demo well before the first bombers fly.

There is no defense that can stop bombers

 

[Husher]

Commandos are difficult to deal with, but their troop count ratio is very high. One of the key things is to limit the access to the base. We all know this, but I see way to many bases that are just open pools for a commando to run right through it. The next thing to remember is people have patterns of attacking. Watch your base get attacked, and attack your own base often. You will see how the game reacts to what’s happenin. Adjust the base to best mitigate those attack patterns. Set your museum to max defense with pieces that are based on the majority of who is attacking you. Of course I’m preaching here, most players know this.
For me the game after the factory was put in place is way too defensive minded. The drone tower was tough enough to deal with, but the Factory is just silly. The buffs are out of this world. Automation age is just tilted in a defensive manner. Not sure what robotics will be. But those silly little dog things are cool. I hope the game moves back to a more offensive focus. I like to attack everyone. 470, 489, IDK. I want to smash all of them, and I want them to smash me. It makes me better when I get attacked. I can make adjustments to counter it. Attacking is a live skill. Defenses are fixed. That art is in the attack.

 

[Seek]

Commandos are difficult to deal with, but their troop count ratio is very high. One of the key things is to limit the access to the base. We all know this, but I see way to many bases that are just open pools for a commando to run right through it. The next thing to remember is people have patterns of attacking. Watch your base get attacked, and attack your own base often. You will see how the game reacts to what’s happenin. Adjust the base to best mitigate those attack patterns. Set your museum to max defense with pieces that are based on the majority of who is attacking you. Of course I’m preaching here, most players know this.
For me the game after the factory was put in place is way too defensive minded. The drone tower was tough enough to deal with, but the Factory is just silly. The buffs are out of this world. Automation age is just tilted in a defensive manner. Not sure what robotics will be. But those silly little dog things are cool. I hope the game moves back to a more offensive focus. I like to attack everyone. 470, 489, IDK. I want to smash all of them, and I want them to smash me. It makes me better when I get attacked. I can make adjustments to counter it. Attacking is a live skill. Defenses are fixed. That art is in the attack.

Well that is your way I prefer defense. As for the commando and tactical between them and demo all of your AA is gone no matter your set up. So then they just run Turps to eat Sam’s up and just flatten the base. Good bombers kill 1:30 to 1:45 most of unskilled can kill about 2:30 to 3:15. There is nothing for Offense players to take pride in on any attack if they use Bombers or Leggo cause any clown with decent muse can 5 star pretty much any base.

So yea if you like Defense players never havin a fair chance then yea Bombers mania is all about no chance.

Just remember the brag the pride and respect for Offense players is tied to how hard their opponents are and right now if players post video they are a clown cause it’s that easy

 

[Husher]

I have an open offer to anyone from any alliance to step away from theirs for a bit. Cruise over to the Holy Grail. Attack my base. I’ll attack yours. We can learn from each other. Some have done this already and see what I’m talking about. I’d rather just put it up to the test. or, I turn my team over to one of my members and I join theirs for a bit to do the same thing. I have a very simple attack style. I have a very simple base. Cruise over and give it an attack. It’s fun.

 

[Husher]

I was just attacked by someone with a +300% bomber hit point, and he set American coal for an extra 68%! Amazing! He used 5 bombers, 3 recons and 2 tups, of course with infiltrators and demos, and smashed my “used to be” untouchable base in 2 min 8 sec!
I guess BHG have done a great work with bombers! Still need tho to add few more bombers artifacts, so they help attackers going below 2 min! A new challenge to think about!

300% of what? What was the HP total? Was this in War or Peace time? thats a very high total. 5 bombers? That’s 10 spaces. 2 recon? 12 spaces. 9 is the most spaces I have seen. That’s with the temp hanger perk. Unless the bombers were all troop tactics. What you’re sharing doesn’t add up. Did you screen any of this? Maybe they are cheating.

 

[Seek]

300% of what? What was the HP total? Was this in War or Peace time? thats a very high total. 5 bombers? That’s 10 spaces. 2 recon? 12 spaces. 9 is the most spaces I have seen. That’s with the temp hanger perk. Unless the bombers were all troop tactics. What you’re sharing doesn’t add up. Did you screen any of this? Maybe they are cheating.

They referring to the 300 to 350% dps now hp can upwards of 450% for bombers yes war as for needing the extra building most good bomber don’t even use hangers they don’t need too with how overpowered they are and no Air Defense towers to worry about and again Turps eat all the Sam’s cgi etc

As for helping Leggo EDST can reach in the 400% range cause most defenders to only get 2 spawns of troop buildings they increased firing rate and mythical and museum change made them way more powerful and don’t even get started on how powerful Para can be.

Also good sir they released all the War Legendary and probably will continue to make them available so pretty soon you see Drone Age players having these type of stats so all you mid level down defenders start working on your O museums lol

 

[Kenn1h]

The buffs and debuffs have clearly gotten out of hand with mythical, showcase, munitions, council, museum and library. There are too many to keep track on that this game will ever be balanced again. They will have to rework the whole thing.