Considering switching from Japanese to Germans...

Dyloot

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I recently hit Enlightenment with the Japanese. I'm finding I'm taking advantage of the longer treaties and the TC tower attack less and less. I like the Samuri, but see that the German footies are even better. I'd love a bit of help in the post-calv attack nerf... should I consider switching to germans?

More DPS with the footies, plus the attack buff after a successful town assault?! Sounds good to me! What do you all think?
 

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Japanese and german infantry have same stats as far as i know. The main difference is german faster rally so better offense vs japanese better defense. So in that sense i would recomend switching if 600 gems is not a problem for u. But in that case u might as well switch to romans who have the best offense.
 

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Japanese and german infantry have same stats as far as i know. The main difference is german faster rally so better offense vs japanese better defense. So in that sense i would recomend switching if 600 gems is not a problem for u. But in that case u might as well switch to romans who have the best offense.


What do you think of the new German offensive buff that triggers after winning a match?
 

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I forgot there was one that came out in one of the updates i remember now. How much of a buff is it?
 

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I forgot there was one that came out in one of the updates i remember now. How much of a buff is it?


"As of version 1.5.67, German players gain a 10% attack bonus upon a multiplayer victory."

Also, the Junker has +6 on DPS infantry compared to the Ashigaru, but the Ashigaru has a 3 attack radius--1 more than the Junker. According to http://dominations.wikia.com/ at least.

I like having more DPS and the added attack bonus, but I'm not sure it's worth burning 600 gems over.
 

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All soldiers can't shoot over walls and have a melee range. Wiki is out of date as usual.
 

Dyloot

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Haven--there's both a range number and an attack radius number. Neither of those come up on the in-game details screen. /shrug.
 

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Germans have 10% more dps. Romans have 10% bigger army which means 10% more dps and hp. And with more troops on the field the cart does more healing per tick. So romans still have the battle advantage....the only thing i can think of is 10% german bonus would apply to generals. So with each age that generals get bigger and stronger eventually in space age german generals will be monsters :) then they get nerfed so oh well. For now romans sill better
 

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I'm Roman right now, but have considered German as a good option with that 10% buff, i would say, if you enjoy using the rally to direct your troops, the German is a good option. if you just want an offensive army and don't really care about rally during battles, join the rest of us with the Roman army.
 

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Dbuk, their bonus is 10% after win, but the core idea is longer and faster rally dps which could be great for rallying inside the base. But the problem is that rally is kinda broken when bases are not just square. Attacking wise, this nation could be great.
 

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Id rather have roman 10% more hp and 10% more dps. Than german 10% dps and faster rally
 

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All theory of course i dont have the crowns to jump nation to nation to playtest
 

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Germans have 10% more dps. Romans have 10% bigger army which means 10% more dps and hp. And with more troops on the field the cart does more healing per tick. So romans still have the battle advantage....the only thing i can think of is 10% german bonus would apply to generals. So with each age that generals get bigger and stronger eventually in space age german generals will be monsters :) then they get nerfed so oh well. For now romans sill better


I went with Romans. The extra units and HP are very welcome.
 

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I've also considered switching from Japanese to German. The improved Rally function is very interesting to me since I use a cannon/cart/infantry army that lives and dies by staying in formation.

Don't go Romans. We see enough of them as is. Germans have more flavor.
 

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No samurai has ever shot over my wall or at my troops from 3 squares away since the update. Range and attack radius mean the same thing too. While Napolean says his attack is melee, he clearly still has range as can be seen in replays, however the samurai have not attacked me from range.
 
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I recently switched from Japanese to German late in my Medieval Age and I am really happy with it so far. For me there were a few factors that influenced my decision.
  1. The previous path finding AI was buggy (better now) and the slow rally option was driving me nuts. So the improved rally control was very attractive to me
  2. I liked the defensive town hall on Japanese but the extra peace treaty time didn't make much sense - 16 hours? I got raiding to do!
  3. The new Teutonic fury -- was a surprise bonus that came in soon after I switched - I love it.
So between the rally and teutonic fury I'm super happy. Like Mr Surplex - the rally makes working with supply cart much easier. I don't miss the defensive townhall too much. It was a good trade off for stronger offensive options.
 

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that sounds solid to me. I am considering switching from Greeks to German or French. Right now I am not sure which nation should I go after. French has the training blessing that reduces the army train time. but Germans have nice rally control that works very well with cannon/supply cart tactics.

I could really use further opinion to come to my conclusion. thanks.
 

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Medieval is very early to estimate anything. But germany is now definitely better than Japan. Attack matters more. Recently I switched from British to France and started missing my archers immidiatelly. They are very potent in the latest balance. I was able to 5-star max EA bases without buffs or with 1 tactics and generals in the end to take loot. France is the best for loot, but after HC nerf, nothing more. I am bored in two days of raiders attacks. I haven't try germans, but I think Brits are stronger now, because of unique. It may change tho.
 
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