Estate Feedback Thread (Merged)

Rorchach

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I agree it's not a very good deal, but if this is a game you spend even a little amount of time playing consistently it's not that bad. You can easily drop more money elsewhere, a night out at the bar, nice dinner for two, a console game alone costs as much... spend the money or don't.
Oh but they said all areas of the game would be accessible whether pay to play or not. Boohoo, you think you're going to ever max out walls without paying? or generals? Considering the thousands you could spend on those alone. It's a frickin free game you downloaded on your phone or tablet, stop complaining already and play or quit. Nobody cares if you quit playing especially nexon, they won't even notice.
 

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Well, technically that's still true. Workers just speed up access to areas of the game. They don't grant access to something that free players cannot get.
 

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This is nothing new. Most popular games/apps will suck you in and then slowly become a cash cow. If another great game is released by some other company that looks really good and works hard to get the trust of it's players, a year later they will be sticking it to them also. It is how they work. They will push unwanted content over fixing bugs or broken systems with every update. Just look at what has really been fixed and what has been released. This game would be a lot better with less content and a better war matchmaker, better troop AI and better Nexon/player base communications. That's my take, but what do I know. Estate for money? Really?
 

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First of all, if they are charging $50 for the estate, they should at least make the villagers from the estate do work efficiently.

Maybe giving 4 or 6 villagers instead of 3 or maybe reducing the time spend on upgrading by those citizens into half.
 

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Fable

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$50 with $50 worth of crowns would've sufficed. $50 with 0 crowns is too much. 5 workers and $20 worth of crowns would've made the purchase a little less painful.
 

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That depends on whether the estate has a HP value and needs to be destroyed for 100% victory. If not, you are right. If it does, it's an advantage for paying players, and a part of the game free players don't have access to.
 

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Just wait until Atomic when upgrades cost 18 workers, what are you guys gonna do then hmmmm? Im being sarcastic of course. This smells scammy to me. Add a bunch of stuff that requires a lot of citizens (namely uni and global building upgrades) then charge the price of a FULL game for a few extra "workers"? Seriously, who's the genius behind THAT idea? Trying to reduce the amount of people playing this game to stabilize the servers or what? I suppose its a good plan if thats the goal
 

Joe Shamback

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Time to fork out 30 bucks and just buy a complete Civ V, or spend a few bucks more than what these 3 workers cost and buy a full version game like Civ VI
 

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I feel like this is the only game many people play and they've completely forgotten how the mobile gaming world works...its ALL about money! And news flash, thats how the WORLD works! My god do we have to do this every other month. Just leave if you don't like it, they are not doing anything wrong, at all. We may think it's a bad strategy but WTF should care, they are sitting with all the cards and all the data. If you still like the game then play it, if you can afford to spend the money then do it. If you've gotten to a point where you complain more than you play...well there is a massive universe of mobile games that would love to take your business, chew you up and spit you out, until you realize it's not one particular game but the whole industry that is greedy for profits.
 

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It's not just that the Estate is a bad deal, but also a sign of more to come. I was able to do reasonably well paying nothing, had 10,000 crowns saved from freebees, made it to level 175. I was considering buying crowns and the starter pack, but every time I get attacked by a cheater I change my mind, and think it will be a waste when I quit anyway. The cheater attacks did drop from near constant to maybe once a week.

It is evident that free players are advancing too much for Nexon's liking. I needed an excuse to quit anyway, and this was it. They won't care though, as I never paid anything. It's the occasional $10 for crowns player they are losing that will be the biggest hit, as they probably spent $100-$200 a year.

I do wonder if Nexon will actually make it to space age before giving up on the game,
 

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That won't be an issue, people without the estate and whatever else is to come probably will never make it to Atomic Age. The lack of workers leaves just one option, camp out a lower age and slowly get all university research and upgrades. The spenders with all these workers will speed to Atomic and Space Age, which could leave them with a real shortage of players for them to attack. Obviously Nexon's plan will be to make Global Age even more overpowered, but then that won't give the spenders enough of an incentive to lay down money to go Atomic.
 
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JMoney

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Yea I can't agree to this pricing. I literally bought the newest Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney game for less than this (around 49 dollars Canadian), and that's an entire visual novel, not just +3 workers. The package deal really ought to come with more or be purchasable with crowns, that way it can be attained even through just playing the game for a long time, which the folk playing since the release of this game tend to be the more dedicated players to the game, aka the ones that the people paying top dollar need unless they wish to be stuck in matchmaking looking for an opponent for the next 2 hours.
 
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snowleopard

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Well, I would love to give them money if they deserve it. It is not about spending money on updates. It is about:
1- Solving the server problem
2- Better customer service
3- Give something worth spending the money.
 

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I'm hearing that cheaters are already able to unlock mansion without paying.
 

TitaniumNinja12

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Does that count as cheating? Or does Nexon cheat on their word about not paying for any more buildings?
 

Mobius

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While I understand Nexon is in this to make money +3 workers just is not a good enough value for me to spend $50.00 on, there are many whole games that cost that or less.

If it ever goes on sale for $20-$25, or if it gets packaged at its current price with a significant number of crowns (which really costs Nexon nothing so I was surprised it did not to be honest) then I'd be much more tempted to buy it.
 

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Yeah, sure you'll meet bases of your lvl at raids - with much tougher defenses that is - purchasing Estate means you can work on each Uni research tree , and still have enough workers for another upgrade.

Each defensive research at Uni gives 3% of dps or hp.

Beeing GPA and doing mortar upgrades till lvl 5 you have dps of IA mortar without Uni upgrades.

In the long run ot does affect your looting ability , because Uni upgrades don't give you exp which means that someone at your lvl who could manage to do more Uni upgrades than you will have same lvl as you with insane defensive capabilities which will make you unable to do even 15% of destruction not mentioning gaining resources.

Second thing we got with this update is Sniper Tower - well guess what , that means that your healing carts will die right at the beginning of battle , and you are left without them struggling to loot from at least one Mill/Market beeing shot at from insanely strong defenses , or geting killed by insanely strong defenders .

And please don't anyone comment that it was the same thing with starter packs , that some ppl bought them with real money to advance faster , and the issue we have now is the same, because it really ain't.

If you have bought Starter Packs it only ment that you get houses faster, not that you get aditional house and in the long run everyone could buy same houses that come from Starter Packs , but at later Ages.

It is not the same this time.
This time you either buy with real money , or can dream about having more workers.

In case of Starter Pack you could choose - pay , or wait till you can build houses with resources. In case of Estate it's like Nexon telling you - pay , or GFY.

Nahh, the game is most and foremost about Skill. Any fancy 10% will not help you if you cant attack properly. I know people with IA accounts who can 5 star 175 global bases like a piece of cake.
Yes, those with Estate will have an advantage with faster upgrades, they will upgrade 25% orso faster than we do. But they pay for it, so why not? I will rather try to perfect my different army compositions on different type of bases. Sniper towers, lvl40 generals, lvl 6 coalitions, nothing can stop you if you love the game and want to be good at it.

Just Fight and have fun!
 

redprince

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All games have issues. And people will spend money whether the game developers "deserve" it or not, that's kind of an ambiguous statement. What game developer "deserves" your money if they are all just being greedy and trying to suck as much out of you as possible? It's more about the gamer understanding the reality of the world around them.
 
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