February State of the Nations!

[poop_]

SO Nexon can say that sandbagging is fixed and now they can ignore it.

AND, try to distract us with other goodies, like increased war loot, 2 spots in the armory, other upgrades, and promises of fixes...

Everyone, don't be fooled! Their war matching is BROKEN. Fixing it would improve the game for everyone! Why don't they fix it?

Many of their short term 'fixes' are to distract us and WILL make bigger long term problems.

If you want to be part of the solution, and if you are looking for actual change, join us at the round table:
Leaders for Change - Announce your Alliance and that you would like to join the discussion
Please come here https://discord.gg/csnmzkP

 

[NoMem Wilson]

It would be great if war loot was increased to at least match what you can get in a raid. In 1 raid it is Possible to get 1 million food/gold. But in War you use 2 full scale attacks and don't even match what you can raid. In my alliance i am 10 levels higher than everyone else. I have been playing since game released and play a lot. Too much some say. So i fill all war bases, as other need loot more to try and shorten the gap.
another thing that should be addressed. Maybe find a way to penalize bases that do not upgrade farms and caravans. I am guilty myself having medeival farms in an atomic base. But if you have farms in the game make it vital to atleast upgrade them, maybe stop people from aging until all buildings reach ancertain level, idk but economy is another aspect that can be ignored and should as it wastes time to uograde them when all civs are in university and anchorage to get ready for stronghold

 

[Equal]

well because war rankings are messed up really bad. and i am not talking about base design or wall levels. on our alliance we are ranked so randomly, that our best hitters and few really strong defensive bases are not even in a top 5. how it is possible that a fresh global can be ranked ahead of max armory offensive upgrades atomic player who also has quite a few atomic level defensive buildings. world war ranking means nearly nothing these days..

 

[Master Contrail Program]

I agree to a point. I'm a 163 Industrial and am ranked above 2 atomics in my alliance. They tend to be rushers and both only have level 8 walls, whereas I'm a completist. My assumption is that the algorithm puts way too much of a premium on defense, library and uni techs, and walls. Relative to their actual worth in a situation where you can gain 10 stars but only give up 5.

An actual explanation and formula of war ranking would be awesome. A number would be cool too. Whether they break it down to offense/defense/misc. or just a single number. I assume they'll say then people will manipulate it, funny we're seeing a lot more ham-fisted manipulation right now.

However, letting perfect be the enemy of good just means this whole insipid situation drags on for another six months or year. 40/30/20/10 weighting is something they could do in a matter of days. I'm sure the legion of paying beta-testers that is the player base would be more than happy to point out flaws and improvements to the system. Just a hunch.

 

[Equal]

and i am a global and i am ranked 3-4, with about 7-8 atomic behind me in a ranks. and one of them is lvl 210. just saying that something is really wrong with the rankings recently. and i thin you are right about defensive power being more important than offensive when determinating an overal ww strenght for the entire alliance. and i never thought about that, but you words just stuned me. we got 5 stars on defense,which is ranked more heavily and we can all produce 10 stars on offence, with less 'weight' on a world war strenght ranking than defense. something is not right here. and adding another slot to the armory to even more speed up offensive upgrades seems crazy to me.

 

[Bowmore]

My alliance is currently in a 30v30 war with #1 ranked Korea Army. Their war roster consists of 26 Atomic Age accounts, most level 200+ (two are 196 and 199), and then 4 Iron Age accounts at level 16,10,10,9. The war is a total mismatch, and waste of time. Their Glory is 27,425 and we have 19,896.

Just thought I'd share that, since we've been told by Mr. DeSanti that the Top 10 Alliances are NOT sandbagging.

 

[S_How]

Whats their avg level with and without the sandbags? Sorry for such a bad matchup. There are two terrible situations here - 1) KA cannot get a matchup without sandbags because zero other heavyweight teams go in full weight because there is no incentive to do so, 2) you get an absolutely terrible experience for your team for the next 48 hours because BHGs "matchmaking" delivered you a match with insurmountable odds.

 

[Bowmore]

S_How, thanks for showing some interest in this, and more than the developers ever will. Not sure its worth my time to do the calculations. Even if KA can't get a matchup with 30 Atomics, I'm sure there are plenty of alliances above us and below them that would be more competitive matchups. Their inclusion of 4 min level Iron Agers is not just about finding a matchup, its about finding one they cannot possibly lose. And clearly this is sandbagging, regardless of the reason, and makes Nexon/BHG look silly for proclaiming that sandbagging is dead on the Glory leaderboards.

 

[Vixen]

This all just seems to be getting worse since the update........

 

[JuDomines]

On top, KA has very deep uni upgrades (that are not accounted in level). So, good luck my friend! And to be super clear: KA is above any other team in this game at the moment. They just crushed Korea Soul hard. They don't need iron age base to win ALL their wars. Seriously, it's really to find a match.

 

[poop_]

I think @bowmore's point is very clear. Doesn't matter whether they sandbag or not. THIS MATCH UP IS ABSURD!
Why should they have to waste 2 days of their time because KA can't find a match?
The game should NOT be matching them. Period. End of story.
Matching alliances like this will surely chase players away. It is not fun, a waste of time, and not fair.
If the game really wants to match KA so badly, maybe they should give Bowmore's alliance some gift in return for their wasted time.
Not sure why it is ok to use them as KA's punching bag.

(BTW, the blame here is going to Nexon's failed matching algorithm. Iron's shouldn't make a difference in a war match up. Fix it.)