Is Nexon too soft on cheaters?

[KnattyNate]

The problem is that you guys are not ahead of cheaters, you’re behind them, trying to catch them, relying on other players to report them so you can issue consequences. You need to make it so that these cheats can not happen in the first place, close all the doors to the matrix, figure out how these cheats work and shut them down so they can’t be replicated.

 

[sileepuppee]

You’re know you’re just a sheep as well, just a sheep on the side that blindly doesn’t think cheaters ruin any game. We get it you’re anti establishment but that’s the whole point in these forums, so we can rant about stuff. Why does it bother you so much that cheaters bother us so much?

 

[Borck]

Another big Issue is the response rate. If an issue isn't solved no feedback will be given. I sent CS friday and sunday a complaint about WW cheating. no response at all, except we will investigate. Nobody in our Alliance sends complaints or reports cheating anymore due the lack of action from CS. I sometimes do but throw in the towel after a few chats with CS and will be trying (foolishly)
again in a few weeks time. An example this cheater was reported over 4 days ago. I check him every day, he is still online with this base, I really don't get it.

 

[Borck]

He has superbombers with H-bombs, 1 run destroys a 140k plus tc.

 

[kilgore_trout]

Well about the cheating, I will ask u all this. Why dose it all bother u about who cheats or not. From the start of this games there is cheating all the time from day 1 I am sure some of you in here have tryed to find something to help u out with the game, now nexon doesn't care, and why would he care there a lot of players that pay in the game so the make millions. And u people like sheep u are you are giving out some people to the corporate branch for what??? Because they did something that u can't or don't have the knowledge to do it?? That's why you will die a slave to your masters... Me personally I don't give a **** if they cheat or not.

nice, a sheeple rant, reminds me of middle school. Except by middle school most of us had a much better grasp on the English language. It must be tough acting broody in a language that isn't your own, you try to wax philosophically but come across like a person that fell on his head.

 

[Berend_War]

TinSoldier Can you explain what the actions are then? It sure looks like XP is removed. And I know for sure his wall's where not maxed 3 weeks ago. So a rollback in time is also not the sanction.
He didn't get banned, did support do any thing? Or was it just his hack acting up?

 

[Berend_War]

Borck Looking in to cheaters takes a lot of time. That's why we need to keep reporting. Maybe even more if we see a ingame violation. If it's going to cost them they need to do something about it proactively.

 

[Berend_War]

Our CS team will investigate every issue that is reported to them.

Removing player XP would be quite an arbitrary punishment, and not something that is done within our current ban system. Among other reporting issues, this is why we've pointed out in the past that data from the website shown in screeshots isn't a true measure of a player's account.

Thank you to all of those who remain vigilant and have provided screenshots to myself and the CS team.

The data from the website is showing exactly what my suspicions are about these players. If I look up my own account it shows a nice steady upgoing line. If I check other players in my alliance it shows the same, all in a steady flow.
It’s hard for me to believe that just for these accounts the data is incorrect. They offered me a hack I checked them out and seen major improvements on there bases in just a few weeks.
To gain 850000/1.5 million XP in a few weeks you would need a whole lot of crowns, loot and money I think. I would need to win the lottery for that.

Beside that it’s unclear to me what the sanctions are now. Nexon needs to show there loyal players that they take it serious. So far I think a lot of us have serious doubts about that.

 

[No Angel]

This is not about cheating. i'd like to justify what TinSoldier said, that the data shown in dominations.pl is not always correct.
For example, when someone leaves an alliance and doesn't join a new one, the stat showing in that website is that he/she is still in old alliance.

 

[Berend_War]

No Angel, we were talking about experience points, and I think TinSoldier was also revering to that. Can they also be incorrect?
Would be a wierd coincidence that it's exactly this players that show abnormal stats

 

[No Angel]

Berend_War I believe he was referring to overall data
Anyways we all need clear picture about penalties given to cheaters.
My friend who started playing this game together with me was banned cause he gained too much XP in short time and reached Industrial Age right when it was barely announced. So I believe, there are penalties for cheaters. Why all cheaters are not banned? Not because Nexon is too soft, but cause there are a lot of possible cheaters out there to be analyzed and treated differently.
Just keep doing whatever needed according to game instructions. Report, report, and report.

 

[Berend_War]

Well, looks to me I have 3 options:

1. Pay a whole lot of money, to keep up with the reballacing.
2. Join the cheaters (cheapest option even if you get caught).
3. Don't care and don't bother. And enjoy the game as it is. (Still report but just don't expect any justice)

number 3 is my choice. Thanks for those that participated in this topic. Taking a lot of time that could be spend on my alliance or my 3 kids and wife. Maybe someday things will change.

 

[Manifesto]

@athineos74
Wait, what? wtf?

 

[TinSoldier]

Thank you for the screenshot. I'm going to dig into the current status of this player.

 

[Berend_War]

TinSoldier could you please enlight us on the actions taken. Where trying to understand what the penalty is on cheating. I personally think it is to low and believe in a zero tolerance approach.
That is if cheating is proved ofcourse.

 

[Mountainking]

TinSoldier That POS SOB was a shit low level crap AA player with ghetto walls. Suddenly he is maxed everywhere jumping 30-40+ levels and has so many upgraded stuffs. This is ridiculous man. Get your act together and ban that alliance builder loser player NOW ASAP. INSTANT.

 

[Rogue Squirrel]

This post from two years ago has just been dragged up in the bugs and known issues thread: https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...es/532693-banned-for-suspicious-activity-what

A lot of people where mistakenly banned for exploiting bugs in the game and it caused a lot of resentment in the community. It probably explains why Nexon are so cautious about banning people too quickly without a thorough investigation. That, and the fact that they probably don't have enough staff to deal with the sheer number of reports they receive everyday

 

[Radzeer]

So when the Garuda Sakti alliance is winning each WW with iron accounts clearing CWA bases, they should roll back those iron accounts, if I'm not mistaken, or what?
It simply doesn't make sense. 3-4 months ago Garuda was cheating with their advanced accounts, why not rollback those? If their CWA accounts are rolled back, then they can't war in the high league.

There should have been long ago introduced a "scrutiny" process of all suspicious war attacks (short time, too high lvl difference of 4-5 star attacks), and if a suspicious attack is done, the attacks should be supervised, and if found guilty of cheating, they should not count towards the final war-score (in case suspicious war attack is detected, the war result should be postponed).

 

[Cannibals]

You can tell when dealing with CS that Nexon are clearly understaffed and lack analytics tools to deal with cheating in any real time sense. It takes days for action to be taken, if at all.

 

[Xabar]

Actually, I do not understand the actions of Nexon regarding the Cheaters. Alliances where all members are fully exploiting Bugs (crowns, event troops, super coalitions, etc.) are not banned, or only some members are banned arbitrarily.
If I have met several people like the player of the capture of this publication, I have denounced it, and Nexon has never banned him for being a cheater.