Library, university, walls and XP

McGregor

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Hi,

Are library and university researches safe about not increasing my rank ?
Is it the same for walls ?
 

pckrn

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library gives lots of xp. university and walls give 0

military and defensive improvements increase your war weight in World War regardless of xp
 

McGregor

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I thought war weight and XP were close notions.

Then, are walls included in defensive improvements ? And are researches like Leonardo or Catherine trees included in military/defensive as well ?

And is non-World War combat weight calcultated on similar basis ?
 
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_Flash_

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I thought war weight and XP were close notions.
They are not. They are two different measures. War weight is calculated based on the strengths of offensive and defensive capabilities. This number isn't exposed, nor is the formula to calculate it. Thus, there isn't definitive information about what contributes how much to war weight.

Then, are walls included in defensive improvements ? And are researches like Leonardo or Catherine trees included in military/defensive as well ?
Yes, they count towards war weight calculations for war. But, by how much is not known in terms of numbers.

And is non-World War combat weight calcultated on similar basis ?
For non war match matchmaking in multiplayer battles, the matching up is based on medals, and is irrespective of XP or war weight.
 

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I'm in industrial age and have completed library research. Done and dusted. Just about to complete all Amelia available to me in university as well . Fourth big mortar just finished to go with the four anti tank guns. My bunkers and airstrip are also upgraded. Currently working on towers.
 

Muschristian

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I think walls can add quite a bit of weight to your base (not sure about the Uni boosts to walls)

We used to have a member who ranked #1 at one point and his army and defenses were not all that. His walls shoved him right up. He had to attack down 4 or 5 places in the lineup for is to be using attacks wisely and stronger attacks in the right place.

But like the others said ignore the XP number is quite misleading as it could either be made up of all Farms and Road networks and not much else, or visa versa all attack/defence and no farms roads etcs...

You'll also find two exact same players with the same XP, one with Versailles, Acropolypse, Angry Twat etc.... will be higher than another exactly the same with Stone Henge, Taj Mahal, Notredame (for example... cant remember which ones are the same age or not... lol) but you should get the drift.

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Gundolin

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I think walls can add quite a bit of weight to your base (not sure about the Uni boosts to walls)

We used to have a member who ranked #1 at one point and his army and defenses were not all that. His walls shoved him right up. He had to attack down 4 or 5 places in the lineup for is to be using attacks wisely and stronger attacks in the right place.

But like the others said ignore the XP number is quite misleading as it could either be made up of all Farms and Road networks and not much else, or visa versa all attack/defence and no farms roads etcs...

You'll also find two exact same players with the same XP, one with Versailles, Acropolypse, Angry Twat etc.... will be higher than another exactly the same with Stone Henge, Taj Mahal, Notredame (for example... cant remember which ones are the same age or not... lol) but you should get the drift.

Mus
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Its strange but I had thought quite the opposite for walls. I have steadily increased my walls much faster than some of the people in my alliance that were ranked near to me, and I cannot see it making any difference in my war ranking. But I have no idea, maybe they are adding other things at the same rate and I'm just not seeing it. Its really hard to say.

But yes, I completely agree (and I'm sure I have read) xp has no effect on it. The commerce only techs are not weighted, and things like farms and caravans do have a weighting since the total HP of your bases goes up, but it seems to be such a small increase it might as well be ignored. While other improvements like adding a Bunker on defense, or a third plane on offense seem to carry quite a bit of weight. And yes, I completely agree that the wonders are weighted quite differently. (I think Notre Dame is a zero, and FC is huge compared to its HP for example).
 

Muschristian

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I dunno then Gundolin, maybe they have changed things in updates.
(That was probably about 9 months ago that particular guy with the Walls being the only explanation for his ranking)
 

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University boosts to defensive buildings are a big invisible contributor to war rankings. Usually when I see someone high for no obvious reason, that is the difference.

Library does boost war rank, but it gives XP levels in line with those contributions. So not hidden at all.

Walls seem to count for very little - with maxed 15 walls, I fall way below other similar level bases with worse walls but higher defenses elsewhere.

High level generals seem to be a very large contributor to war weight, out of all proportion to the difference they actually make.
 

McGregor

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Walls seem to count for very little - with maxed 15 walls, I fall way below other similar level bases with worse walls but higher defenses elsewhere.

I was wondering about that. Interesting. Thank you.
 
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