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Petition against sitrep

The Borg

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I understand how the cap works. Attacker has =95% to All Enemy Tower HP. Defender has +100% to their own All Defensive Tower HP. These are now added together first, net result, +5% to the defender's tower HP, nobody is over 85% on anything, so nobody gets capped. Where's the problem?

I'm open to seeing some big advantage being given to attackers here, but so far I don't see the argument for it.
The -85% cap would be totally fine if the Recon scan didn't further exasperate the situation. There is no level of Tower Health with a perfect museum that can stop current play and the new patch.
 

King DHoogster

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Here's the current math with real numbers unlike their examples:
Defender has 170% ADTH (I have more than this)
Attacker has 150% AEDTH
Defender has +20% advantage

Oh wait... here comes the Recon! -280% + 20%.
New Result: Attacker has a -260% Advantage which bypasses all the safety
Here's the current math with real numbers unlike their examples:
Defender has 170% ADTH (I have more than this)
Attacker has 150% AEDTH
Defender has +20% advantage

Oh wait... here comes the Recon! -280% + 20%.
New Result: Attacker has a -260% Advantage which bypasses all the safety nets.
fyi you are wrong with ur math lol
 

The Borg

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Forgot to flip the minus sign on the attacking advantage 🤭.
We will see The results soon enough with it without a petition. 🤷‍♂️
 

Zaxillaxifrage

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The -85% cap would be totally fine if the Recon scan didn't further exasperate the situation. There is no level of Tower Health with a perfect museum that can stop current play and the new patch.
So you and others here are signing a petition against an announced change when you recognize that the announced change is actually fine and other things that have been around for a long time are really the problem. And you expect this confused and convoluted complaint to be persuasive?

I'm sympathetic if defensive players are struggling across the board, but not so sympathetic to protesting X because Y is bad. BHG has a hard enough time responding to complaints that are unambiguously clear and unanimous.
 

oddin

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as it is now...
Defender has +170% ADTH
Attacker has -150% AEDTH
cap of 85% makes the 150 transform to 85%. So now, we have +170-85=+85% ADTH in favor of the defender.
This is what they are trying to fix. The injustice against offence.

BHG says that they want to do it like this from now on:
Defender has +170% ADTH
Attacker has -150% AEDTH
+170-150=20%

The difference between the 2 is massive. in my opinion the second option is the correct one but only if they fix the balance between offence and defence. We have stated numerous times many ideas that could possibly help eliminate the unfair situation we are in.
 

King DHoogster

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So you and others here are signing a petition against an announced change when you recognize that the announced change is actually fine and other things that have been around for a long time are really the problem. And you expect this confused and convoluted complaint to be persuasive?

I'm sympathetic if defensive players are struggling across the board, but not so sympathetic to protesting X because Y is bad. BHG has a hard enough time responding to complaints that are unambiguously clear and unanimous.
I don’t think you fully understand. I figured out the 85% cap 2years ago. I wanted it fixed 2years ago. But with this change it will only give attackers more power. This will only hurt defenders and the game at this point. I want it fixed. But only if it comes with a realistic defencive buff. The game is boring now. It will just make it worse.
 

Zaxillaxifrage

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I don’t think you fully understand. I figured out the 85% cap 2years ago. I wanted it fixed 2years ago.
So the fix you wanted two years ago has now been done, and you are therefore initiating and promoting a petition that is specifically asking for it to be undone, because what you want is something different entirely. Got it. Makes perfect sense. Very understandable. o_O
 

Magenia

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Consider me signed!
Even more now after reading at how many players aren’t fully understanding why the intended “fix“ will hurt D players even further…
 

Horsepower

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The bottom line here is the survival of the game. Right now the game is not challenging and in many ways it’s boring. The only way to bring the Challenge back it to a level the playing field. Right now, before that new change the field is lopsided favoring offense in a big way. Layering that new museum change on top of an already broken game will cause many players to quit out of additional boredom and frustration.
We need to assure the longevity of the game and save it. Right now it’s slowly dying.
 

Nikolay

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Delete this petition, it's not needed. I am a defense player and have a top museum, with which, in the presence of 3D coalitions, my base is destroyed in 2 minutes. This is unacceptable. Sitrep has been needed for a long time in this respect. And you just need to learn to play in attack. It's not that hard. Stop whining, let's make the game more interesting. Finally, you will have to count not seconds, but stars during the world war.


It’s better to express your opinion here, it will be more useful, it is necessary that they hear me and give an answer:
https://xen.bighugegames.com/index.php?threads/problems-of-all-updates-and-their-testing.28410/
 

oddin

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Delete this petition, it's not needed. I am a defense player and have a top museum, with which, in the presence of 3D coalitions, my base is destroyed in 2 minutes. This is unacceptable. Sitrep has been needed for a long time in this respect. And you just need to learn to play in attack. It's not that hard. Stop whining, let's make the game more interesting. Finally, you will have to count not seconds, but stars during the world war.


It’s better to express your opinion here, it will be more useful, it is necessary that they hear me and give an answer:
https://xen.bighugegames.com/index.php?threads/problems-of-all-updates-and-their-testing.28410/
you do not understand what they said... read again what other players say about it. There are many posts that explain. The sitrep will do things worse for us defenders.
 

oddin

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So the fix you wanted two years ago has now been done, and you are therefore initiating and promoting a petition that is specifically asking for it to be undone, because what you want is something different entirely. Got it. Makes perfect sense. Very understandable. o_O
it makes perfect sense cause the game was different 2-2.5 years ago and another game NOW!
I wont go into the trouble to say what changed between that time... you can figure it by yourself anyway
 

Kai_Li

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In fact, it should be the "helicopter" that should be modified
It makes no sense to develop "traps"
Anyone still using land creatures? Only the heroes are left...
 

King DHoogster

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So the fix you wanted two years ago has now been done, and you are therefore initiating and promoting a petition that is specifically asking for it to be undone, because what you want is something different entirely. Got it. Makes perfect sense. Very understandable. o_O
Lol. No. The fix needs to happen. But to do it right now will only hurt the game. They need to give defense something at same time to make this work
 

King DHoogster

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Delete this petition, it's not needed. I am a defense player and have a top museum, with which, in the presence of 3D coalitions, my base is destroyed in 2 minutes. This is unacceptable. Sitrep has been needed for a long time in this respect. And you just need to learn to play in attack. It's not that hard. Stop whining, let's make the game more interesting. Finally, you will have to count not seconds, but stars during the world war.


It’s better to express your opinion here, it will be more useful, it is necessary that they hear me and give an answer:
https://xen.bighugegames.com/index.php?threads/problems-of-all-updates-and-their-testing.28410/
Lol. I think you are missing the point of this.
 
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