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Stop sandbagging!!

Bobby lucky

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I think: Nexon should ban the 15000 glories and higher alliances with iron ages IN , druing war search to prevent them from sandbagging!!

LUCKY FIGHTERS: friendly, serious alliance
 
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Master Contrail Program

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They should just ban irons from wars completely. It takes, what, 2-3 days to get to classical age? Sure that just passes the buck to classical but with max levels soon to be at 300+ every bit helps.
 

Bobby lucky

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I hope they consider this suggestion and do basic solution for this annoying problem, soon !!
 

Master Contrail Program

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They won't. I understand it's frustrating and sometimes it helps to vent, but what you see is what you get from this game. There will never be a fix for sandbagging, a rebalance of nations, a fix/ban on obvious cheaters or anything of the sort. Those take time and effort that BHG/Nexon is not willing to invest in this game any longer. Plus, the people at the very top who have already maxed everything in less than a week like things just the way they are. Maybe we'll get alliance leagues and new AXP levels at some point though.

The game can continue indefinitely as long there are people still playing/spending. It's up to each of us to figure if/when the bad outweighs the good. Just saying when Tin Soldier likes every post that basically says ''shut up and quit complaining'' it seems to provide a window into the devs' mindset.
 

Bobby lucky

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Master Contrail Program that will be a bad news then, if they don't fix this important issue!! So all of the alliances should change their style to the sandbaggers !! That maybe fair in that case !!
 

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I personally find sandbagging distasteful but that's entirely on the devs by this point, rather than alliances who do it. There is no way they are incapable of fixing the game's issues, so the obvious conclusion is they're unwilling to do so.

If your group is making a serious push for that meaningless, in a gameplay sense, leaderboard then you pretty much have to sandbag. If you only war for the camaraderie and to break up the monotony of two week builds then you guys have to figure out what's most important to you: Your integrity or winning/competing?
 

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At this point only upgraded Gunpowders should be allowed into war. Level & age limit.
Rationale being, pre-GPA offense game is broken due to stronghold acting as an early additional catapult. And pre-IA combat sucks too, lack of decoy to dampen the tactics nerf.

What do we get in return for this limitation? It becomes harder to sandbag because you need more GPA dummy accounts than what you needed Iron accounts.
 

Bobby lucky

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Master Contrail Program it's natural that we like winning but due to fair playing. Unfortunately Nexon ignors that, willingly or unwillingly and causes us about thinking to be cheater or sandbagger !! That's what i hate !! But like to win , the players will lose motivation of waring against sandbaggers teams, when defeat each time after another 😞
 

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I can't say I agree completely. The game already has significant roadblocks to attracting and retaining new players. Sure, hardcore folk can get to that point in about a month. But it may take casuals and mega maxers three months or more to get there. I would assume there are a few newbie alliances still running around these days.

At the very least war weighting ought to be changed so the top half weighs twice as much as the lower half to reflect the 2:1 attack:defense ratio. But again, it won't.
 
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Master Contrail Program

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I don't know, my man. They kept that Road to Nowhere post up for a year and what came of it? Nothing.

If you go in full strength 80% or more of matches will be sandbaggers once you past certain war size and glory thresholds. The best way I've found is to sandbag yourself. I don't mean create lvl 8 iron accounts whose only purpose is to manipulate, but to let new lower level folks in who genuinely want to learn and grow, and don't mind taking their lumps while doing so.

With wars devolving into card-spamming contests manipulating the matchmaking to get enjoyable wars is about the most strategic thing left in this game.
 

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Speaking from experience, in a semi-casual alliance that welcomes and teaches new players. The current war experience for anyone lower than gunpowder is horrible, and we often struggle to keep those players interested for the game. You need more skill to do good attacks in Gunpowder than Industrial. Provided the new player even gets a target he/she can attack.
 

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Yeah, I have an atomic, an industrial, and a gunpowder account. The IA gets to be useful in half our wars, the GPA maybe 20% at best. Mostly due to stronghold stuffing. Hard for 95 troops to deal with 140 instantly reverse clowncarring out of one building.
 

Saruman the White

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They have to change matchmaking completely, rather than banning group of players and alliances. They could pair a sandbagging alliance with another sandbagging alliance and both be happy!
 
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