Unique Infantry are weakest defense troops compared to Tanks/Riflemen.

[Gears]

My post is not about buffing Unique Heavy infantry but about Heavy infantry as defense troops that spawn from Command Post and Armory.

German/Japanese/Roman have heavy infantry as their unique troop but these troops are the most ineffective and weakest troops for defense compared to the unique riflemen of Korean/British/Chinese and unique tanks of Greek/French.

Command post and Armory(with Library:Resistace) produce heavy infantry as defense troops for German/Japanese/Roman but they get destroyed as soon as they spawn or come near attacking troops like Heavy tanks, Riflemen or Machine guns while Unique Tanks delay the attack by few seconds due to their High HP and Unique Riflemen if left unchecked destroy most of Field Howitzer/Heavy Artillery in few seconds.

Suggestion: Like War Academy, Armory too should produce basic tanks.
or
Command post should produce 2 tanks, 4 riflemen and 6 infantry. Nations will gain their respective unique version of their troops.

Edit: Ignore Command Post from this post. I am now only concerned with Resistance troops deployed from Armory.

 

[albynos]

in my opinion every nation has its benefits. It true that german infantry is weak, but germans give you the fury. Romans give you more barraks units and so on. I'm Greek and works well....just swap the nation with crowns....

 

[~Kratos~]

Germans and Romans make up for their less useful unique unit with their unique nation benefits. Those 2 nations are by far the best offensive nations (especially german). And the buffed infantry are really good for raiding actually.

Japanese is in general lackluster, they need to buff it to be worthwhile for anyone higher than classical age.

The unique units shouldn't be the deciding factor for your pick of nation though, in later ages those couple of units from Command Post really won't make much difference in defense. I never even consider the nation as a factor when I'm evaluating defense of bases for my attacks.

If they were ever to change/add unique units, I would rather have them create unique artillery/healers/factory troops and so on. Bring some variety.

 

[Gears]

Read Again. I am talking about the defender troops that spawn from Armory and Command post. I am not making an argument for Offensive capabilities of those Nations.

I am suggesting switch the unique troops that spawn when Armory is destroyed to Non-unique Tanks atleast.

 

[sileepuppee]

German infantry weak? I guess if you're not using apcs yet, ever did, or are pre atomic age than that would be the view on the units. I think most players who don't do the research into which nation to pick will decide solely on the specialized unit or japanese. I think that extra peace treaty time really grabs a lot of players and not until much later do you realize that the extra treaty time is not even a drop in the bucket overall. When a lot of players start off they being by using the max amount of whatever specialized unit their nation is. I think the one exception for units is the brit nation. Those shooters will last you a long ass time.

 

[Gears]

German infantry weak? I guess if you're not using apcs yet, ever did, or are pre atomic age than that would be the view on the units. I think most players who don't do the research into which nation to pick will decide solely on the specialized unit or japanese. I think that extra peace treaty time really grabs a lot of players and not until much later do you realize that the extra treaty time is not even a drop in the bucket overall. When a lot of players start off they being by using the max amount of whatever specialized unit their nation is. I think the one exception for units is the brit nation. Those shooters will last you a long *** time.

Read my posts on this thread again.

 

[No Angel]

Gears some people never read carefully and rushed to explode their comment I agree spawned foot troop defenders alone are the weakest.
I'm ok with my French tank defenders from Command Post. They were buffed in last Rebalance.

 

[Gears]

Gears some people never read carefully and rushed to explode their comment I agree spawned foot troop defenders alone are the weakest.
I'm ok with my French tank defenders from Command Post. They were buffed in last Rebalance.

Yes. They rushed to reply without reading my entire original post.

Armory resistance troops are not significantly better than the Barrack spawned generic heavy infantry both of which offer no resistance. Compared to Unique tanks/Unique riflemen which if the Armory is destroyed by ranged siege, those ranged riflemen instantly take them out as soon as they spawn while high HP unique tanks take few seconds to go down.

I am only suggesting that atleast BHG TinSoldier should switch from the unique heavy infantry that spawn from Armory to generic tanks similar to War Academy.

 

[pckrn]

different nations in this game are meant to be different. so germans and romans have the weakest defense of all the nations. thats just how they are. if you dont like it, there are other nations with variety of different strengths to choose from.

 

[Gears]

different nations in this game are meant to be different. so germans and romans have the weakest defense of all the nations. thats just how they are. if you dont like it, there are other nations with variety of different strengths to choose from.

I am only asking for a change in the troops deployed from Armory. Non-Unique tanks similar to War Academy resistance troops.

 

[~Kratos~]

My points in the first response were on similar grounds as pckrn. Maybe my wording made it sound like I didn't read your post, but I did, I just went a step ahead already.

This is just something to consider when you're choosing your nation, it is a small negative defensive perk against the incredible offensive benefits (talking German and Romans here, Japanese is all around crap).

The nations with the most useless unique units on defense, infantry as you said, they have the most useful offensive capabilities, and that is quite balanced imo. if it were to be changed to a generic set of units on defense for all nations, then it would, in a way, give germans even one more point towards absolute monopoly in terms of nation balance. This currently is at least a small consideration to take, for example if you're going for an absolute maxed defensive base, maybe French with the unique tanks (and +war base troops) is the choice (but even then... german offense is just so much more worth it).

But to be honest, this is usually not something that is even considered in my war plans, with heavier defensive bases those couple of unique units hardly make a big difference.

 

[No Angel]

Apart from weak infantry on defense..
Not all Germans are good. And one day Germans will be nerfed, trust me

 

[Gears]

}Kratos;n657144]My points in the first response were on similar grounds as pckrn. Maybe my wording made it sound like I didn't read your post, but I did, I just went a step ahead already.

This is just something to consider when you're choosing your nation, it is a small negative defensive perk against the incredible offensive benefits (talking German and Romans here, Japanese is all around crap).

The nations with the most useless unique units on defense, infantry as you said, they have the most useful offensive capabilities, and that is quite balanced imo. if it were to be changed to a generic set of units on defense for all nations, then it would, in a way, give germans even one more point towards absolute monopoly in terms of nation balance. This currently is at least a small consideration to take, for example if you're going for an absolute maxed defensive base, maybe French with the unique tanks (and +war base troops) is the choice (but even then... german offense is just so much more worth it).

But to be honest, this is usually not something that is even considered in my war plans, with heavier defensive bases those couple of unique units hardly make a big difference.

Japanese Nation stated to have unique defense advantage comes from its City Center and not its unique troops that are used in offense. I also agree with your sentiment about Japanese nation in Dominations.

I am putting forth a suggestion to change unique troops deployed as Resistance from Armory to Generic tanks for all Nations.

The Resistance troops from Armory for Nations are based on their respective unique Offense Troops. Like Greeks/French with powerful High HP tanks, Korean/British/Chinese with Riflemen and Roman/Germany/Japanese deploy unique Heavy Infantry. And Heavy tank take out Resistance Infantry/Riflemen from Armory in one attack while take 1-2 seconds more against Unique tanks.

Resistance troop from 1 Armory building doesn't affect balance of the game significantly.

So my suggestion boosts the resistance of 6 Nations considerably while just slightly lowering the resistance of French/Greek.

2 Nations vs 6 Nations.

To be honest, I too don't see Armory as a threat even in my war plans.

 

[pckrn]

I am only asking for a change in the troops deployed from Armory. Non-Unique tanks similar to War Academy resistance troops.

and i am asking why? why must resistance troops be perfectly balanced for nations that are meant to have different strengths and weaknesses?

Resistance troop from 1 Armory building doesn't affect balance of the game significantly.

if its not even going to matter much, then all the more reason to keep flavor over balance.