Wars

Ravenlord · Jul 31, 2016

Pies, ice cream ...... maybe ''tarts'' next?? Surely there's an angle there for the hobbitzes to sink their teeth into .... ??!!!

phil_dee · Jul 31, 2016

What defines a REAL player to you? All of our members, and hopefully all of yours as well, have followed the exact same process when creating their accounts, when choosing an alliance, etc. Are you prepared to arbitrarily choose a base level or age that, once crossed, promotes a player into realness? Are you also prepared to explain why a player is unreal until reaching your chosen level of strength?

Only two of our weakest 18 players have been idle for more than two days; they are active collectively, and presumably engaged in gameplay whenever they feel like doing so. Whether they attack in our wars or not is not material to this discussion.

ccfoo · Aug 1, 2016

Of course, it takes a real person to create an account and join an alliance, we can't expect zombies to do it, although they also have hands and legs, sometimes missing one or two. But are they created to really play a game, or just as bench warmers watching their Olympic team walloping a neighbourhood school team, it's up for the rest to see. Of course they are actively collecting... Sometimes the cider from the fruit trees look delicious, aren't they? Maybe ravenlord use it for his pie! No wonder everyone is snatching a slice of it!

Everyone likes lottery, some takes the money when they win including me, some are full of compassion for the lottery company and refuse to take the money as they don't wish for the lottery company to suffer losses. You must have many members who are full of love and compassion! But you can assure them not to worry, whether they take the loot or not, nexon won't lose anything.

Well, everyone can judge for themselves, of course... There are always admirers for the best cider pies and compassionate people in society.

ccfoo · Aug 1, 2016

Oops... Some of your members are actively collecting ciders and metals in Iron Age since January? The ciders there must have tasted the sweetest there! No wonder I keep getting shortage of metals and ciders in IA.... They all keep the best down there! How I wished I have not left Iron Age too since January.

Christopher-Outlaws!! · Aug 1, 2016

phil_dee said:
Hi, I am the leader of USA Dankness. There are some things in this thread, and in others, that deserve some attention:

1) We did not adopt our current strategy for the purpose of "manipulating the leaderboard," or anything that resembles this. We have been using this strategy since approximately January 9th, before which we had completed sixteen wars (14-2).

2) The aim of any warlike alliance should be to win wars within the parameters of game rules. Period. This is accomplished by optimizing both rosters and attack strategy in a manner which increases an alliance's probability of victory. While the alliances at the top of our former leaderboard were selling their souls for medal scores between November 2015 and early July 2016, we were winning wars. When USA Dankness landed atop the "unofficial war leaderboard" in this forum and cleared the entire field by five wins before mid-March, nobody cared...nor should they have. [see https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexon...l-leaderboard].

3) Our roster is not composed of accounts that are created and abandoned for the purpose of giving us weak bases. All of the bases being referred to constantly in these threads are of legitimate players who have arrived at our alliance just as they might arrive at yours; this is in stark contrast, of course, to the unnamed alliance whose members have been especially critical of our strategy but who have now also mysteriously rostered three very weak players named "Eeny," "Meeny," and "Miny." In fact, any of you could create a new account and show up on our doorstep, and you'll find yourself at war within 48 hours, just like the rest have. Give it a try, we could always use more of these players.

4) The weak players we employ in wars are PLAYERS, just like any other, and should not be precluded from participating in wars solely because much stronger players comprise the alliance roster they are joining. It's not as if we are able to go send invites to these people; they come to us organically and are fair game for inclusion in wars, no matter how loudly many of you object.

I'm unsure of this leaderboard you speak of as the link is broken. But know that before Glory there were hundreds claiming to be 1st or "the best" but none would take the time to go H2H with one another. I operate on a different set of standards. We refuse to exploit "bugs" though they are part of the game, or employ "fake accounts", though it's part of the game. I love the fact you're inclusive, and doing well with the new glory system. Now the real test would be a H2H

Sincerely,
Christopher - Outlaws!!

Keep your sticks on the ice, and have a good time!!

AmbriaJT · Aug 1, 2016

Christopher,

Lets see how they do in a 20v or 25v against Outlaws!! eh? Is that what you're hinting towards?

I would love to see it. I would also like to point out that they would get to watch how their bases do stacked up against sledge hammers via YouTube, as more incentive

We want stars, we take them!

Ambria of Eminent Domain

GailWho · Aug 1, 2016

Ummm tart? I don't think so! I want a big slice of pie al a mode!

Glacier · Aug 1, 2016

Again, if the Alliance your in is even on the boards, why are they matching bases not on the boards? Overall strength of an Alliance is how matching is done? Then why our opponents so dang WEAK? Volume Zero will go against ANY Alliance and you will get a competitive war, I guarantee it :-]

BV123 · Aug 1, 2016

phil_dee said:
Hi, I am the leader of USA Dankness. There are some things in this thread, and in others, that deserve some attention:

1) We did not adopt our current strategy for the purpose of "manipulating the leaderboard," or anything that resembles this. We have been using this strategy since approximately January 9th, before which we had completed sixteen wars (14-2).

2) The aim of any warlike alliance should be to win wars within the parameters of game rules. Period. This is accomplished by optimizing both rosters and attack strategy in a manner which increases an alliance's probability of victory. While the alliances at the top of our former leaderboard were selling their souls for medal scores between November 2015 and early July 2016, we were winning wars. When USA Dankness landed atop the "unofficial war leaderboard" in this forum and cleared the entire field by five wins before mid-March, nobody cared...nor should they have. [see https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexon...l-leaderboard].

3) Our roster is not composed of accounts that are created and abandoned for the purpose of giving us weak bases. All of the bases being referred to constantly in these threads are of legitimate players who have arrived at our alliance just as they might arrive at yours; this is in stark contrast, of course, to the unnamed alliance whose members have been especially critical of our strategy but who have now also mysteriously rostered three very weak players named "Eeny," "Meeny," and "Miny." In fact, any of you could create a new account and show up on our doorstep, and you'll find yourself at war within 48 hours, just like the rest have. Give it a try, we could always use more of these players.

4) The weak players we employ in wars are PLAYERS, just like any other, and should not be precluded from participating in wars solely because much stronger players comprise the alliance roster they are joining. It's not as if we are able to go send invites to these people; they come to us organically and are fair game for inclusion in wars, no matter how loudly many of you object.

Honestly.... I have no issues with USA Dankness employing this technic in wars. As long as it is within the legal premise of the game, why not.

Are they the best alliance out there? That's open for debate.

Do they have every right to use this technic? Yes they do. So does every single alliance out there.

Like I have already mentioned before.... the Glory league is no clear indication that you are the best of the best of the best.

ccfoo · Aug 1, 2016

Yes, go H2H 20v or 25v with Outlaws, UA, Invictus, Eminent etc! It would be fun to watch!

phil_dee · Aug 1, 2016

The link above will work if you remove the bracket from the end. Try this one https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...on-aa/488753-world-war-unofficial-leaderboard

phil_dee · Aug 1, 2016

Be careful not to draw the poor inference that, if employing this strategy since January, we must necessarily have retained the same members since January as well.

ccfoo · Aug 1, 2016

BV123 said:
Honestly.... I have no issues with USA Dankness employing this technic in wars. As long as it is within the legal premise of the game, why not.

Are they the best alliance out there? That's open for debate.

Do they have every right to use this technic? Yes they do. So does every single alliance out there.

Like I have already mentioned before.... the Glory league is no clear indication that you are the best of the best of the best.

Actually, there is no legal premise in wars. There isn't a checklist of rules you need to tick off other than names, and you just have to press the start search button! Like there isn't a wording on the pie, "Don't eat me!" You just stuff it into your mouth, yummy! Who cares if it belongs to others or not... and mummy didn't say anything either, why bother?

It's up to the Dominations community to decide if it should be condone or not, or walk down the path of other similar games like CoC. We can't stop these alliances have many iron age loving players actively collecting ciders for the best pies for months but can't be bothered with free food and gold, while their big brothers hungrily chomp down the pie of the little kid down the street.

Keep up the good work then!

phil_dee · Aug 1, 2016

ccfoo said:
Actually, there is no legal premise in wars. There isn't a checklist of rules you need to tick off other than names, and you just have to press the start search button! Like there isn't a wording on the pie, "Don't eat me!" You just stuff it into your mouth, yummy! Who cares if it belongs to others or not... and mummy didn't say anything either, why bother?

It's up to the Dominations community to decide if it should be condone or not, or walk down the path of other similar games like CoC. We can't stop these alliances have many iron age loving players actively collecting ciders for the best pies for months but can't be bothered with free food and gold, while their big brothers hungrily chomp down the pie of the little kid down the street.

Keep up the good work then!

The current glory system already provides a penalty for alliances which utilize less advanced bases, by decreasing the glory multiplier for those bases significantly. The multiplier for a Global Age base is 249% higher than the multiplier for an Iron Age base. Something to consider.

ccfoo · Aug 1, 2016

You are so right, leader of the top alliance in the world! As long as there is someone there to warm the bench watching their big brothers, who cares if it is Tom, Dick or Harry? Or Mary? They just need one thing in common, which is to love collecting ciders every hour.

ColdestRage · Aug 1, 2016

But taking half of filler bases lets you win every war , so it pays up well ain't it?

If it wouldn't there wouldn't be so many Iron Age players in your alliance.

And please don't try to tell children stories that this whole filler bases Thing is a coincidence, becouse it isn't and it is in fact well tought strategy for heartless alliances with no honor and morals which don't really see anything wrong with trampling over the weak just to be at the top.

At best just drop the act of this beeing a coincidence, becouse we all Here ain't five years old children who believe in fairy tales.

We all are in alliances mostly , and chances of having only Global, Industrial , and Iron Age players joining any alliance is close to 0% .

So Please don't play dumb, or at least think of a better story to sell, becouse no one buys this one

Glacier · Aug 1, 2016

If iron age bases hurt your glory intake, then why these alliances still hitting home runs in the 500-600 per war glory range? We in our 3rd freaking 200 glory War! Grrrrrr I want more glory dang it! Sux to keep winning and the whole leader board steadily walks away with the lead smh

phil_dee · Aug 1, 2016

Many of them are likely receiving those types of numbers because they don't have a lot of glory...meanwhile, at the top, we will only receive 230 for our current war.

phil_dee · Aug 1, 2016

I've never claimed it was a coincidence--to the contrary, I've said already that this was an intentional strategy we adopted on or about January 9th. I've also never claimed that only Global, Industrial, and Iron Age players join our alliance. I would hope that nobody buys what you've constructed here, as it is nothing like what I have described.

phil_dee · Aug 1, 2016

(and two of our last three wars brought 294 and 226 glory as well)

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