Advice needed - which classical wonder

[enthrop]

I've google'd this question of which Classical wonder to pick, and found a lot of helpful information, but still struggle a little with my choice. This is because some of the posts are "old" and I don't know how relevant they are anymore with all the patches since then. And, they're often written from different stages of the game -- using a simple example, the guy who finished upgrading everything says that Notre Dame is useless. I myself am in Medieval age right now, and probably 1-1.5 weeks away from upgrading to Gunpowder (separate topic, thinking of upgrading early just to make use of the instant upgrade.. causing waiting 5 days isn't my thing).

Forbidden City - This is the one I initially heard as, "You must have if you do WW." Yet, while looking up WW strategies, I hear a lot of comments that FC is a joke... that most people either defend TC and FC becomes easy to take down, or they split defense up and so both fall easily. But then I also read posts from people who say when they see a FC, they get ready for the 4-star victory. Conflicting posts! So I'm really not sure how helpful FC is. My personal thought at my stage is... it's not very helpful. Right now in WW, Enlightenment+ people just steam roll me, and I doubt a FC will change that. So maybe I skip it for now, but revisit it in a later age?? And yes, I do WW every chance I get -- it's fun!!!

Colosseum - This is the "go to" one I heard for all around. Helps a little in WW, but also in multi defense. It sounds pretty simple to understand why it's helpful... you get more defenders! But, how helpful are the defenders? When I was in iron/medieval, I always avoided opponents with Colosseum. Now that I'm in Medieval, I don't find those defenders as painful? Maybe it's because those players haven't kept their garrison up to date.. I don't know. So this is one I heard is good, but I don't understand how good. And yes, I have the Acropolis.

Notre Dame - Another mixed one I hear. Half the people say it'll save so much resources -- especially oil -- while the other half either say (1) I'm max'd out already so useless or (2) just raid more buddy. So initially I ignored this one because I love multi combat and fighting. But real life exists too, and while I love fighting/raiding, I can't do it all the time. So will I reach a point where, unless I have Notre Dame, I find myself sitting around? Just how demanding does the resource costs get, where Notre Dame maybe beneficial? Up to this point I haven't had any reosurce problems and thus ignored this. But upon further research, looks like many people advocate this more during Enlightenment+, when oil comes into play as well.

So.. having said all of that, I can't decide! It sounds like this may be a wonder best suited to save some crowns for to use one now, and use one later? Maybe Colosseum or Notre Dame, then switch to FC in a later age? I've played enough free offer games that I unlocked both 2nd slot of blacksmith and library... so think my next crowns can be saved for a switch

 

[LeadAccount]

Coliseum. It’ll be perfect I think .

 

[Alexey]

Notre Dam is useless, there has been a lot of increase in resource production, so if you able to do 2-3 attacks per day, you'll be able to have all resources you need. As for Colosseum or FC - it's more the choice of your playing style. Nevertheless, for the lower ages I would recommend Colosseum, it will give you more fun. Defeders are useless, but it's buff is really nice)

 

[Saruman the White]

I have Notre Dame and I am quite happy about it. Of course all other would be decent choices, too. If I was to change I'd choose Colosseum because it's an excellent partner to Acropolis which I also have. But, as I said, I'm very happy with Notre Dame, both of resource saving (think about oil) and of everyday gold, which is little (35k AA) but free! Finally, Notre Dame is an excellent partner to the Greeks, because the Greeks are being refunded 5% after building upgrades/constructions but not (to date) from library and unit upgrades. Notre Dame adds discounts to library and unit upgrades and, cumulatively with the Greek building bonus could be nice enhancement to one's economy

 

[Necksahn]

Coliseum if you like offense and Forbidden City if you are a defensive person. Some will start with Coliseum and switch to FC much later in game (when it matters)

 

[yemen]

Notre Dame is quite valuable for the oil discounts on aircraft and factory troop upgrades, as well as library research. My second account uses this.

The terra cotta army is a nice troop card, and a good bonus for someone who is focused on war at the high end. It is much better for current strategy (line and 4 corner attacks in competitive wars where time matters) then the coliseum. I would say this is the best choice for someone focused on being a good top end war attacker.

Forbidden city is good for really strong bases where 50% qv might also be tough to get. We're talking about 230+ atomic or cold war here though, so easy to switch in a few years when you get there.

I don't like the coliseum tactic on offense - it doesn't help nearly as much when you do a spread attack, and at this point you should start learning to always do spread attacks (line attacks at lower levels, 4 corner at the top end). And infantry are almost meaningless defenders by the time you are industrial, so not a lot of value there.

 

[Persia]

This is exactly the problem with the Colosseum, I saw it being used a lot before (try looking at one of the older videos from Ryan Tran/Dominations Vietnam on YT for example), but if you want to use it to its maximum effect, you have to rally your troops into an area near a lot of buildings that you want to take down.

Hmm...buildings to take down...defensive buildings, and ones that will probably do heavy damage to rallied troops (clustered mortars especially).

I'm using the colosseum right now as an atomic (rushed though, and not going to war until I at least max my army and get global planes). Considering changing to terra cotta since the extra shooters could really help out.

 

[Manifesto]

Notre Dame is very underrated, if you raid casually. Its also very useful in later ages like Global and Atomic, it can easily save a million on resources and helps with saving oil too.
As Alexey said, if you raid a lot its not that important. The extra tactic of the coloseum can be a useful back up tactic, after Nexon nerfed them.
The Terracotta troops are probably best if you like raiding but 24 hrs is a long wait. I like the Coloseum because it also helps with defense, more at lower ages.
It all depends on your playing style.

 

[Muschristian]

I'd personally go for Notredame Entrop, I have never considered changing it, it saves you a fortune on upgrades as you move through the game. This is a great Wonder for YOURSELF...

There are plenty of other wonders you can get as you progress which you can focus on from a War perspective rather than your own progression.

Forbidden City is a real pain War Wonder in the later stages of the game but it makes base design a real pain too, and will make it harder for you to progress through the game unless you place it carefully to try and increase the chance of a peace treaty.

Good luck with your choice!

Mus
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[True God]

I'd personally go for Notredame Entrop, I have never considered changing it, it saves you a fortune on upgrades as you move through the game. This is a great Wonder for YOURSELF...

There are plenty of other wonders you can get as you progress which you can focus on from a War perspective rather than your own progression.

Forbidden City is a real pain War Wonder in the later stages of the game but it makes base design a real pain too, and will make it harder for you to progress through the game unless you place it carefully to try and increase the chance of a peace treaty.

Good luck with your choice!

Mus
British Lions!
British Lions!!

I used Notre Dame up until enlightenment age served me well but had to go.