betrayed heavy tanks lose their stats

pckrn

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my betrayal info says the unit retains 95% of hp

but as soon as i use it on a defending HT it loses more than half its hp.

it’s like its hp is being set to 95% of a regular HT rather than 95% of a defender HT.
 

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lol this thread was created oct 19th
on oct 22nd tin, on another thread, says:

TinSoldier said:
Defenders turned by Betrayal keep their defender stats (albeit slightly modified based on the attacker's research of the War Tactic's infulence.)

they are NOT keeping their stats!!
 

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Could this be from a low level tactic? From memory, the first few levels only gave you 50% of the betrayed troop's hp.
You have to upgrade it to get more hp.
 

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TinSoldier , just keeping this alive until we get a response that makes sense.
As you can see from OP's gif, the defending HT loses more than half its hp. Also, a HT I betrayed right out of the bunker yesterday also lost at least half it's hp. About 5 or 6 shots from 2 defending medium tanks almost killed it. Please have a look into this anomaly, defending HTs are definitely losing half their hp once betrayed.
I really doubt it's just a visual glitch because those regular tanks shouldn't have made a dent in the HT.
Hope to hear from you soon. :D
 

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I've been unable to replicate this issue, but will let the team know to be on the lookout.

Is there any more information about the battle where the .gif was pulled from? Perhaps we could look into the attacker and defender details.
 

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Perhaps this is a consequence of defending HT having many more HP than attacking HT? If the adjusted HPs after betrayal were calculated based on attacker numbers but the health bar reflected the defender HPs, it might appear that half the HP were lost.
 

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I've been unable to replicate this issue, but will let the team know to be on the lookout.

Is there any more information about the battle where the .gif was pulled from? Perhaps we could look into the attacker and defender details.

its like this every battle.
i contacted in-game cs about this so that they can look at those details.. if they do such a thing.
 
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Exactly our point! My betrayal says ''90%'' of health. The hp of the HT I betrayed went down to slightly less than half.
Since defending HTs have double an attacker's hp, 90% of an attackers hp = just less than half of the defender.
Exactly what I saw.
 

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Thank you so much pckrn! I'm able to share your battles with the dev team as they dig into this issue.
Hi Tin, has there been any further news from the dev team?
I sent CS a picture and message a few days ago. Their response was it could've been the amount of defenders near the heavy tank. Then their response the next day was it might've been the towers near the heavy tank. They're ignoring the fact that the pic I sent was taken at the moment of betrayal plus all their responses indicate no-one has actually tested the scenario, it's just their opinions.
Do we have any hard data to show that the defenders lose or don't lose their defender stats?
 

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It’s because there’s a hidden “morale” feature. On defence, they’re so good because they’re proud to be defending whoever you’re attacking’s base. If you use betrayal, they feel bad about themselves and thus aren’t as effective. Kudos to Nexon for the feature, it’s very reflective of the human psyche during war.
 

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i have never upgraded my betrayal, but they should still have 80% hp; it seems to drop much farther every time.
it's hard to be sure without seeing numbers, but it looks like it's being converted to attack-HT-hp.
 

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You guys have acknowledged that if there was no legit notes from the developers/game team, no CS would be allowed to explain further right?
The game team is investigating. So I'm pretty sure if you have sent tons of tickets, the answer would not satisfy you.
Just wait until they release official notes, and/or fix it at next update.
 
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