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Campaign for pay to play instead of play to win!

VictorDominations

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Guys, I’m sure many of you just like me are frustrated about the huge changes were made to the game in the past year.
For me, I really started to lose interest in this game the second Nexon added the SH. I saw they way this awesome game is going to take. And I wasn’t wrong.
This was an awesome game which was based on pure abilities of the player himself and that’s why so many loved it.

At some point (introducing the StrongHold) this game took a huge step to the pay to win direction which is ruined and keep ruining this game ever since. In my opinion and I know that in many others’ opinion as well, this game stoped to be fun and exiting as before because of all those changes.

I understand that developing the game and to keep it running cost money and Nexon also want to make a profit from it except for covering the expenses. It’s a business after all and that’s fine and understandable and no shame in that. I’m not against it and I assume all others too who loves or loved this game before.

All the changes which were made since the releasing of the SH (troops cards for defense, SH spawning anyway, reducing usefull tactics, introducing Bazooka tower, “nerf” Bazooka Sentry, Elephants archers, spawning fort, spawning Pentagon etc) were made only to force players to buy troops cards for defense and offense to make a profit for Nexon. It’s just was made in the wrong way in my opinion.

​​​​​So here is my suggestion to resolve most of the current game’s problems:
Make this game based on a subscription fee 1-3$ monthly 10-15$ yearly or whatever some other reasonable price you choose (Nexon don’t be greedy, you will gain a lot more by making this game accessible to many others). Let me explain how this will resolve most of the problems.

First of all you really need to remove the SH for defense. Secondly you need to return all the tactics back to one space for each and to remove the silo and let everyone to play his style as it was before. By messing with players style of attack you are just killing this game.

You know what, even do the subscription fee only from Global age and above. Let people to get into the game first so they won’t want to quit it right away because of the subscription fee.

So here is why this will resolve most of the problems:
1) Everyone keeps playing with his style. (More happy customers more revenues)
2) The game will be back to it’s original and what made it so awesome and special before. To be based on player’s abilities not on his pockets.
3) People who won’t subscribe probably aren’t also buying the troops cards and you don’t see any revenues from them anyway.
4) It will reduce cheating dramatically. Since most of them cheat just because they are not willing to spend even a penny on the game but want all the benefits from it. No point to keep them around.
5) You still will be making money on selling troops cards since they will be used for attacks to reduce time (as a tie breaker in wars).
6) If you are afraid of making the attacks powerful again (the defense is too much right now to be honest) you just can double every building hit points to make it harder to get quick victory star and to finish the whole base in time. It will make this game even more exciting since you will have all normal tactics again, no troops cards on defense and yet it’s very hard to 5 star a base in war. (More troops cards selling for attacks).
7) Make the subscription fee from Global Age to make people be into the game before the start to pay.
8) Normal amount of tactics will help also to low level players to grow faster and to be able to deal with higher bases than theirs.
9) Soon when most of the people will have the silo, this game will be unplayable in multiplayers to loot, to get NTG and everything else.

Guys, if you agree with me, please let Nexon know about it in the comments below and keep this post alive. Let’s return this game to the point where we all loved it.

TinSoldier Nb4powerup I really would appreciate it if you keep this topic in General discussion instead of moving it to Suggestions and ideas. And please bring this suggestion up to your decision making management.

TinSoldier *Please change the title to “Campaign for pay to play instead of pay to win” I’m not able to change the title for some reason.
 
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Emperormaximus

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This is a fantastic idea! It is well thought out and clearly balances the interests of both players and Nexon. I urge Nexon to implement this idea immediately!
 

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Good Suggestions. Hope the Nexon developers and their bosses listen.
 

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All they need to do is remove defending SH units, nerf the elephant archers, and give everyone the ability to earn free troop cards easier.

Silo is actually fine in world war. Subscriptions died about 5 years ago...no game will be successful with that model today.
 

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Well said, user with no posts who happened to notice this thread within 5 mins of original post and felt so fascinated by this that you finally decided to comment on something on this forum...
 

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I don't like the idea of subscriptions and I wouldn't pay a monthly fee for this game, there isn't enough here to justify it. Also, what's with all the upvoting within minutes after post creation by players with dubious usernames like "Yetanotherusername" and barely any posts? It's almost as if someone is using their half-abandoned alts to push an idea forward.
 
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This was the best post in this forum in over a year. Being a high level player I find myself losing interest in the game. It’s simply not as much fun as it use to be. The pay the play aspects of the game combined with the extremely difficult defensive structures have destroyed many strategies I’ve fined turned over the past two years. It’s now all about troop cards and even then the fun has diminished. I’ve even thought about quitting all together. I’m actually enjoying playing a poker app more then Dominations now.

I sure hope the developers strongly consider Victors ideas. Developers, you’re slowly killing your game.
 
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VictorDominations

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Maybe. But maybe that’s also what might save this game eventually. Many already quit because of all the changes. Many others play without fun and just because it’s hard for them to give up on their invested -+2 years on this game (like me). Just take a look over the comments on the forum. Do you really think this game in the right direction right now? I really doubt.
 

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@melheor... no alt accounts, there are many ways people that play dominations communicate and it brings players here from time to time
 

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I don't necessarily agree that subscriptions are the way forward, but this is definitely a well thought out plan to combat the ill-considered direction the game has taken recently.

​​​​​I have loved dominations for years, and sometimes still do, but the pay to win aspect has completely taken over.

We should be given the option of whether we want to participate in wars with people who are willing to throw £££s at the game every 2 days in order to appear on a list somewhere, or whether we'd rather play for fun against other like-minded alliances.

Troop cards aren't the only way nexon collect money from this game, they had been doing alright just selling crowns for a while beforehand.
I was more than happy to buy some every now and then, in order to get my goodies upgraded faster, and feel like I was helping to pay for game development at the same time.

In my opinion allowing ranked/unranked war searches with/without SH cards makes more sense.
Allow some alliances to carry on playing the old way, whilst still allowing the glory hunters to keep lining nexons pockets.
 

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?? What does that have to do with any of the arguments being put forth here?
 

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You would lose me, and im sure many other players, instantly if they switched to a sub based game. COC doesnt need it, they also dont need pay to win. Why in the world does this game need it. A game that COULD be so much better.

EDIT: Not only would you lose a lot of 1 account players, those that stay with multi accounts would probably stop playing those alts, meaning the player base would drastically decrease.
 

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No its not, but adding a sub would fast track it further in the wrong direction - extinction.
 

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Interesting post Victor. I personally don't think subscription is the way to go, but I do believe smaller paid amounts with ''throw-away'' troops would generate a lot more income.
I think people are happy to pay $2 here, $3 there, even if troops are only EA or IA strength. 2 or 3 of these troops in wars could turn the tide of a battle, it's not a huge chunk per player and Nexon gets a steady income. That, combned with occassional big sales of crowns or large armies should keep Nexon's income flowing nicely.
However, none of this income stream has anything to do with the gameplay. If Nexon wants to increase their income stream that's expected. If Nexon wants to tweak troops or buildings that's also expected. Nexon, for some inexplicable reason, has done both to the detriment of the game.
Where's the sense in that? Nexon wanting us to pay is fine but as a ''counter'' they should be encouraging us to keep playing by IMPROVING the gameplay, not making it harder to play.
It's like a boss making you work harder and then not paying you if you don't!
 

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I don't think this game deserve to be "subscribers only" with so many bugs, and so many cheaters! For that i expect from game to be absolutely flawless...
Just imagine you paid for this month, and have complete perks meltdown in the middle of war or something similar? Refund?? 😊
There is a lot other things devs could do to make this game better, just need to be more creative amd make this game more enjoyable for players.
If you are enjoying in something you will pay or pay more for that particular thing...
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Mainly the fact that these are YOUR alt-accounts. It's interesting how they only post when being extremely critical of Nexon, as if afraid of having them associated with your main account (last post by Yetanotherusername was to accuse of Nexon of being incompetent and not banning a player within 8 hours of being reported), and how you're the first to the scene to approve of this arbitrary proposal. Also, it's interesting how no other frequent forum poster seems as adamant about this idea as this group of unknown users and you.
 

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Definitely some food for thought here. A few dollars/pounds/yen/sheckels a month wouldn't bother me but it might some... but the current pay to win aspect has been taken to extremes with the various examples already mentioned and can't be good for the game long term. I can only hypothesize that card purchases are Nexon's main income stream from the game. I was though surprised by now small the income was from the "Hurricane Relief" card sales.

My biggest concern for the game is still cheating sadly... in multiplayer its irrelevant but seems widespread in some alliances in war, making the expenditure of purchased troop cards particularly galling when you opponents seem to have them in a bottomless bucket, probably for free.
 

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Subscription for a mobile game?

No.

People would quit en masse (a free to play game is much more alluring and you can 'throw in some money here and there', working much better than a long-term commitment for a subscription for a mobile game, not to mention something that was FREE until now (playing the game) getting taken away from you)

Additionally it would be much harder to justify inflated prices of premium objects and skips, which would mean less milking of the cash whales and less f2players to get smashed by those same cash whales.

Would Nexon conciously give up profit? Yeah, only if their entire managment board woke up with Alzheimer's disease and forgot how business works.

Free to play is a system refined over a dozen years
now, it is the best system to generate revenue on simple/small games (especially mobile) because you can rely on people who impulsively spend their money, while having a poll of free players that provide the fun for those same paying players (you feel like a great player for smashing that top base in war with your elephant archers) while providing some fun for the free crowd.

So no, the subscription idea is completely unfeasible and not only would Nexon not implement it even at gunpoint, the players would massively reject it too.
 

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This game is not even pay2w, more like cheat2w...
When you face some alliance in 30vs30 war, and they have all, literally all SH fully filed with field howitzer, do you really think they actually paid for all that troop cards? I don't think so...
And pray the lord for war replays, and no more attacks with 15 fighters and 24 howitzers...
Wibble i still remember that war attack on your base for 55 seconds, and someone proposes monthly subscription? Ok, with that calculation i already paid for next 30-40 years...
 
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