Crowns Devalued

[MSS-Gaming]

I'm not sure as to why some are being dismissive towards this recent game-breaking event. Everyone who plays the game is ultimately negatively impacted by what has happened, except for those who benefited. High-spenders have had all of their expenditures and progress devalued. Those who don't commonly spend in the game have had their hard work and time investment in the game over the years devalued. Those in the middle who spend occasionally and loyally over time have also had their progress and investment undermined by this unfortunate event.

At first I thought the same things as some of you, what would a few more maxed out players mean in the big picture. But, sadly that is before I knew the extent of those who benefited from this at the expensive of others. Sadly the number is not a handful. Just from the three alliance that I am in contact with so far 14 people have said that they benefited and few others are suspected to have benefited. This to me means that a sizable portion of the player base has benefited from this.

Crowns are everything in this game. Crowns as a single resource can be used to boost every aspect of Dominations.They can be used to purchase resources, peace treaties, troop tactics, and most important for all reduce/eliminate building, training, and research time. Crowns have a mostly consistent value between players. So as to argue that someone who benefited from this is no different than then a few more high spenders wouldn't necessarily be true. If so many people spent nearly a thousand dollars on the game overnight, the game would be better for it (more money for the developers to further expand and develop the game).

As to what can be done now, that is a task for BHG and NexonM to figure out. Between the three alliances that I am in contact with 53 players have so far pledged to not spend a dime until something has been done about this and I urge others to do the same. BHG and NexonM, we'll be waiting to hear from you.

 

[Manifesto]

Not to devalue your comments but 14 people and few others?
Wow, that's almost a catastrophe!

 

[MSS-Gaming]

Not to devalue your comments but 14 people and few others?
Wow, that's almost a catastrophe!

14+ out of 127 members between the three alliances is not such a small number. Still, I wonder why you are so adamant to disregard the scope and significance of what has happened?

 

[Loonies]

I am willing to overlook the scope and significance of what has happened because I couldn’t compete with those players who benefited even before they got the excessive crowns. The only thing outstanding is for Nexon to offer token appeasement and then all can get on with life.

 

[Manifesto]

Because, as I said in another post, what does it matter in the grand scheme of things?
A few more upgraded bases to add to the mix? Meh.
In a years time these bases might've been upgraded anyway and we would've faced them anyway.
It's done, I'll move on.

 

[kosno]

there is a thread about this allready no need to open a new one

 

[KingDarius]

I agree with you 1000%, open as many threads as you want hopefully the right person will read it.

 

[Mcnasty]

I love this game and it’s tiresome listing to everyone blaming nexon when this actually wasn’t their fault. Play store sells you the in app purchases not nexon. Play store is charged a fix rate and then they charge you their price. For all we know this could actually be a good thing because it may increase activity with players that were only casual cause they were able to make such a score. It sucks that only android got the deal but it really doesn’t effect me in any way. I’m iOS so you know before saying I got the deal and that’s why I’m defending it. Let them crown their way. You don’t gain experience by taking the easy road so now we have a sh*t ton of high age players that don’t know what to do with what they got. How would one suggest how nexon is to fix this? Play store lost money not nexon

 

[MSS-Gaming]

For all we know this could actually be a good thing because it may increase activity with players that were only casual cause they were able to make such a score.

If this was a single player game, I might have agreed with you, but it is not. Dominations is a multiplayer game where every single player is directly competing with every other player in the game. When anyone benefits unfairly, they benefit at the expense of every other player in the game. I also love this game and have been a loyal player of the game since week one of the game's release. I have defended them through many of their mistakes over the years. But, this time it has gone a bit too far. Progress in the game takes effort, investment, and time. When that progress is undermined, the entirety of the game becomes meaningless. I'm sure that it won't be easy, but they must do something to fix this.

 

[Manifesto]

If this was a single player game, I might have agreed with you, but it is not. Dominations is a multiplayer game where every single player is directly competing with every other player in the game. When anyone benefits unfairly, they benefit at the expense of every other player in the game. I also love this game and have been a loyal player of the game since week one of the game's release. I have defended them through many of their mistakes over the years. But, this time it has gone a bit too far. Progress in the game takes effort, investment, and time. When that progress is undermined, the entirety of the game becomes meaningless. I'm sure that it won't be easy, but they must do something to fix this.

Yes they should do something but what? We all think it sux that this happened but it's done. Do you have any ideas what can be done?
Imagine you get some petrol and the bowser comes up with .19c per litre instead of 1.99 per litre. You pay the lower price and drive off.
What can the store owner do? Call the police and arrest you? Force you to give the petrol back? Give the rest of the drivers in town free petrol? Will the rest of the drivers even care?
I understand your frustration but this is a storm in a teacup, imo. Move on dude. Pick another fight at another time.

PS: in case Nexon were planning on compensating the rest of us and sees this post, I'd still appreciate 'said' compensation!

 

[Festivus]

Oh good grief. "Do something".... As I asked in the other thread - the one we needed, not this superfluous one - do what? You want them to roll the game back, well it's too late for that. Do what? Tell us.

And FWIW, this game is NOT a race. There is no end game. There is no finish line. People progress at their own pace, and it frankly doesn't matter much what other people are doing. Many of us tend to lose sight of this because we play at a high level, and every advantage the other guy has seems to be a big deal, but think for a second how it is that new players - those coming to the game in the last 6 months - can play the game at their own pace, fairly oblivious to the big wars going on at the top - and be just fine. Think about that for a minute. How is it possible if it's a race? It's not, and it's not a race.

You didn't lose anything. So stop trying to pull others down for something that wasn't their fault. And as unfair as YOU might personally think this event was, it isn't game-breaking. Had it gone on too long it might have been, but the fact of the matter is that only a very small portion of the player base was affected by it, and most of those marginally so.

I said it in the other thread, and I'll say it again: you will be hard pressed to see any real effects of this in-game. So the next guy you attack has a lvl 4 silo instead of a lvl 3 silo. Big freaking deal, you should still be able to kill it. Adapt, and move on. The game will, and you should too.

 

[cos_pi]

"Crowns have a mostly consistent value between players. So as to argue that someone who benefited from this is no different than then a few more high spenders wouldn't necessarily be true. If so many people spent nearly a thousand dollars on the game overnight, the game would be better for it (more money for the developers to further expand and develop the game)."

How do you know they don't have sufficient money with them to not expand, how do you know those thousands of dollar.

Ok a few more people will have more advanced base than what they would have. How does it impact you? For s they might get will be directed towards the development of game? How does it matter to you if those people did it in 1$ or 1000$. For all that concerns you: You are presented with an opponent, either attack it or move on. Wars are still "balanced" on total offensive and defensive powers, so still you will match with an opponent of your level only, nothing will change there.

I will repeat what Festivus has said "And FWIW, this game is NOT a race. There is no end game. There is no finish line."

Stop making such a big deal out of a error on someone's end.

"Like they can send "exclusive offer" with various % depending on your account history they can modify the cost of upgrading, ressources and time for all player who used this 0.99 offer"
What is for them to gain out of this activity? Do you have any estimates on efforts vs gains from this?

 

[True God]

It's only a GAME for God's (true) sake. I have made slow yet happy progress with only crowns earned by achievments or stags and am only now in Industrial age . My alliance has a similar attitude and none of us care about people getting extra crowns, troops or whatever . I'm not spending a red cent on a free downloadable game which has no effect on my real life business etc.

 

[cos_pi]

clearly, you have no idea how programming works

 

[Manifesto]

I have made slow yet happy progress with only crowns earned by achievments or stags and am only now in Industrial age .

This is the embodiment of what the game is about.
Also, as Festivus said, people should go at their own pace.
People spend far too much time looking at what others have instead of focusing their efforts where it will do the most good.
As they say: the grass might be greener on the other side but the other person probably spent time and effort on the lawn.

 

[MSS-Gaming]

How do you know they don't have sufficient money with them to not expand, how do you know those thousands of dollar.

Ok a few more people will have more advanced base than what they would have. How does it impact you? For s they might get will be directed towards the development of game? How does it matter to you if those people did it in 1$ or 1000$. For all that concerns you: You are presented with an opponent, either attack it or move on. Wars are still "balanced" on total offensive and defensive powers, so still you will match with an opponent of your level only, nothing will change there.

I think you are dismissing the impact of money in the development and expansion of a game. When players spend money on the game, everyone benefits. When some receive unfair advantage and progress in a game, everyone who didn't benefit is hurt, most of all the portion of the player-base that didn't benefit, as their progress and investment in the game is undermined and the value of their long term efforts is unfairly reduced. Let us not get into how "balanced" WW is at the moment, because that is a whole other problem.

 

[Mcnasty]

Considering nexon doesn’t sell you in app purchases and play store does how could it be nexons fault? Do you have a trusted source that this is nexons fault?

 

[Festivus]

I did read your suggestion, and frankly it's silly. Your solution is to place a handicap on anyone who benefited from it. Uh, no. Keep trying.

 

[Festivus]

Again, no one"hurt" you. You didn't lose anything. You simply didn't get a benefit that some others did. That would be a big deal if this were a race, but it's not.

I keep asking you for a solution, and you keep ducking. I suspect this is because the solution you desire wouldn't actually be fair to everyone. Unless your solution is to roll the game back several days, which would simply screw over the ENTIRE player base for no good reason. You want people to *really* quit this game en mass? Undo everything they've worked for for a week and see how many stay.

The only really fair solution would be to offer a time-limited, heavily discounted crown sale to those who didn't benefit from the error. I don't even know if they could do that from a technical standpoint (I suspect not). I wouldn't be opposed to it if it was possible, because frankly I couldn't care less how many crowns anyone else gets, and if it would shut all of the whiners up I'd be all for it. It doesn't really affect me, just as those who benefited from the error don't really affect you.

But I haven't heard you propose such a targeted sale, which leads me to believe that you really want to punish those who benefited from the error more than anything else. Jealousy is a powerful motivator and tends to show itself in situations like this.

 

[FrostMr]

It’s not Nexons stuff up, the game will benefit. Dry your eyes and move on.