Helis Nerfed due to major error

[LuSt]

@Harlems369th

I was asked by an alliance member to look into this because something didn’t seem right. Based on some tests it seems library research: Rotorcraft is broken. Please view the video provided.

As a side note this is one of many reasons I have stopped playing and let someone else use my account for the time being. Too many broken mechanics, no accurate way to check stats in detail, and it’s just one issue after another. I’m confident in assuming there are many other books in the library not working anymore but I don’t get paid to do the job that your developers are responsible for

 

[Horsepower]

Lust, I find it hard to believe considering I’m seeing helicopter attackers over and over 5 starring big bases in our wars.

 

[Dracula3811]

@Harlems369th

I was asked by an alliance member to look into this because something didn’t seem right. Based on some tests it seems library research: Rotorcraft is broken. Please view the video provided.

As a side note this is one of many reasons I have stopped playing and let someone else use my account for the time being. Too many broken mechanics, no accurate way to check stats in detail, and it’s just one issue after another. I’m confident in assuming there are many other books in the library not working anymore but I don’t get paid to do the job that your developers are responsible for

Rotary aircraft 5th chapter isn't what you're thinking it is.

 

[LuSt]

Rotary aircraft 5th chapter isn't what you're thinking it is.

I mean… regardless of how you or anyone wants to interpret it… the damage output should be increased against defensive buildings. Pure and simple, no argueing that.

When it does the same amount of damage against a defensive building as it does a resource building it’s clearly not working.

 

[Dracula3811]

I mean… regardless of how you or anyone wants to interpret it… the damage output should be increased against defensive buildings. Pure and simple, no argueing that.

When it does the same amount of damage against a defensive building as it does a resource building it’s clearly not working.

Iirc, the increase caused by that chapter is shown on the ah info screen. So compare stats with someone who has it and someone who doesn't.

 

[SomeRandomPlayer]

Iirc, the increase caused by that chapter is shown on the ah info screen. So compare stats with someone who has it and someone who doesn't.

But does it matter? The specific cause was a guess, but the issue described is AH damage against defensive and non-defensive buildings is the same. Should it be so similar?

 

[oddin]

ok this is interesting.... I believe we all have done countless Friendly challenges. And I know that I am not the only one that noticed there is a huge discrepancy between heli effectiveness between FCs and real WW battle. The FCs were always much much easier when you fight with helis. We never found a way to check why but maybe just maybe this library book is working for both defensive buildings and other/resource buildings in FCs while it isn't working in WW battles? See it as the opposite of what Lust is saying.

 

[oddin]

ah and something else... When the first barracks rebalance took place a year ago, i remember we talked about this library chapter being worthless to complete as it wasn't doing anything in the first place. This discussion took place at the Dominations Prime discord. Anyone else remembers anything? @Dracula3811 You maybe?

 

[oddin]

ok took me a while to find it. @Vapula , GomL, garmaggio from boss level and maxis maximus from taser were involved in that debate.
Vapula provided some screenshot before doing the library research. It was 3X for the machiine gun and 5X for the rocket.
In comparison with someone who has done all the research, the figures were 4X and 6X respectively.

 

[oddin]

 

[oddin]

 

[LuSt]

Iirc, the increase caused by that chapter is shown on the ah info screen. So compare stats with someone who has it and someone who doesn't.

I will reiterate… “increased damage against defensive buildings” any argument about stats and numbers are invalid when the same damage is being done to defensive buildings and resource buildings.

 

[LuSt]

maybe this library book is working for both defensive buildings and other/resource buildings in FCs while it isn't working in WW battles? See it as the opposite of what Lust is saying.

This is a possibility, I’ve been told Helis are not performing as well in world war so I ran this test. Considering the recent issue with paratroopers and transport deployment times that was caused by the library book not working my assumption is that this book is also not active.

 

[Harlems369th]

We're still double-checking the application of this buff, but unfortunately, the description is incorrect. This fell under the radar after the Barracks-rework where Rockets start at 5x instead of the 7x where it used to be. The buff in rotocraft research increases this by 1x and it always has, so 5x > 6x is what should appear. The description was hard coded and added the 1x to the incorrect description to show as 8x.

The plan is to update the description to what it actually does "increases Rocket Damage to Buildings by 1x".

 

[oddin]

so it is normal behavior to do the same damage to defensive and non defensive buildings?

 

[Horsepower]

All I know here at Tactical Dragons we are seeing no indication that the helicopters have been nerfed. As a matter of fact, we’ve matched a top 20 team twice in a row. On both sides we are seeing helicopter attacks 5 starring big DDD bases and some of them are with very fast times.

 

[Harlems369th]

so it is normal behavior to do the same damage to defensive and non defensive buildings?

because it's supposed to be "increases Rocket Damage to Buildings by 1x" yes. Doesn't matter if it's defensive or not.

 

[LuSt]

because it's supposed to be "increases Rocket Damage to Buildings by 1x" yes. Doesn't matter if it's defensive or not.

Welp… that settles it than, the description that has been in the game for the past 5 years has just been completely misleading and wrong thanks for clarification

 

[LuSt]

keep cool
the helis have been fundamentally revised a few times in the last few years, so it can happen that a description has been forgotten.

ya know… If it was an isolated incident I’d agree with you. Unfortunately, the game has been and still is riddled with errors like this and worse.

How many more of these errors are there that we have no clue about until we accidentally stumble across them?

 

[King Crimson]

because it's supposed to be "increases Rocket Damage to Buildings by 1x" yes. Doesn't matter if it's defensive or not.

Just wondering if it would be more beneficial to say "6x rocket damage to buildings" instead? I mean, "increases rocket damage 1x" is irrelevant if we don't know what it's increasing from or to ...