Matching Algorithm

[Awesomness]

We need to adjust matching algorithm for high Glory Alliances. Aftermath and Tea Star are around 36,000 glory. I suspect you have an advancing glory threshold in the matching algorithm such that potential matches must come from similar glory. This probably starts in the first hour with glory that is within 2000 of the alliances and then expands at maybe 1000 glory per hour. At some point (6ish hours I am guessing) the Similar Glory restriction disappears from the algorithm and there is no restriction. Unfortunately AM and Tea are 8000 glory above the #30 ranked alliance. A review of their matches indicates they are MORE likely to match a team outside the top 100 than they are teams between 20&100. This makes no sense at all. We have actively tried to match teams in the 50ish range but it is almost impossible as they always match someone else by the time the algorithm expands far enough for us to meet their current glory. And then we are stuck with a rank 200 team. Please consider a fix for this.

 

[Toliphar]

Oh if only there was a Glory restriction on what alliance you go up against. As the algorithm works now, our alliance will likely lose wars for all eternity. We’ve lost 15 wars in a row since they changed the matching. Could be 16… lost count now.

Our highest lvl player is a 390 automation age. In current war match, the other alliance has a top 6 that are all higher level than our #1 top player. And this one of the better matchups we’ve had for 16 wars… Rediculus.

 

[oddin]

We need to adjust matching algorithm for high Glory Alliances. Aftermath and Tea Star are around 36,000 glory. I suspect you have an advancing glory threshold in the matching algorithm such that potential matches must come from similar glory. This probably starts in the first hour with glory that is within 2000 of the alliances and then expands at maybe 1000 glory per hour. At some point (6ish hours I am guessing) the Similar Glory restriction disappears from the algorithm and there is no restriction. Unfortunately AM and Tea are 8000 glory above the #30 ranked alliance. A review of their matches indicates they are MORE likely to match a team outside the top 100 than they are teams between 20&100. This makes no sense at all. We have actively tried to match teams in the 50ish range but it is almost impossible as they always match someone else by the time the algorithm expands far enough for us to meet their current glory. And then we are stuck with a rank 200 team. Please consider a fix for this.

I believe they said at some point that you can't match teams outside of 3000 glory points difference .
@Harlems369th Is that true? Do i remember correctly?

 

[Toliphar]

I believe they said at some point that you can't match teams outside of 3000 glory points difference .
@Harlems369th Is that true? Do i remember correctly?

I sure hope that is true… If true, there is hope at the horizon.

 

[Toliphar]

I sure hope that is true… If true, there is hope at the horizon.

I believe they said at some point that you can't match teams outside of 3000 glory points difference .
@Harlems369th Is that true? Do i remember correctly?

I can now say that there is no 3000 glory limit. Current opponent in war has 3500+ more glory than our alliance. The biggest difference we’ve had, since they changed the matching algorithm, was at just under 8000 glory. Yes, 8000 glory difference, and the developers think that they have made the war matching more fair.

After current war, we will have a losing strike of 17 wars in a row, and this is because our ”small” guys are too big and too strong. …I don’t want to exclude people and create crap accounts to participate instead, just to lower the war weight to get a fair chance. Current situation is just rediculus and demoralising. If we weren’t so extremely strong at triumph, we’d likely have members leaving us.

 

[Harlems369th]

I believe they said at some point that you can't match teams outside of 3000 glory points difference .
@Harlems369th Is that true? Do i remember correctly?

We've not ever said that there was a maximum glory difference when matching for wars. Here's a link to an explanation on how WW matches are determined https://forums.bighugegames.com/ind...ng-of-world-wars-determined.30785/post-198263

The thread gives plenty of insight into the system and replys from @IDaedalusI . But to avoid excessive wait times there is a forced matchmake system in place if there are no favorable matches within acceptable parameters.

 

[oddin]

my mistake. Sorry. I had the impression there was an upper and lower limit in terms of alliance glory when searching for a matchup

 

[Toliphar]

We've not ever said that there was a maximum glory difference when matching for wars. Here's a link to an explanation on how WW matches are determined https://forums.bighugegames.com/ind...ng-of-world-wars-determined.30785/post-198263

The thread gives plenty of insight into the system and replys from @IDaedalusI . But to avoid excessive wait times there is a forced matchmake system in place if there are no favorable matches within acceptable parameters.

Our current war is with an alliance with 10.000 more glory, and it is our 17th loss in a row. I can only hope your coming update will do something about match making… Cause the current one screwing us up big time.

 

[obiwan]

The match making realy is´nt okay anymore, i agree on that. We just can´t win anymore because of the unbalance. Of this go´s on im gonna stop playing, its realy getting very frustrating

 

[kent irwin]

I've been reading about improvements to the war matching system for quite a while. From my perspective the system's just as bad as its ever been. The alliance I'm in has been trying to stage a comeback for some time but we can still only muster 10 members for war. Maybe larger alliances with 20 or more players active in war have seen some improvement but not us.

I started searching for a match a few hours ago and got matched with a perk 22 alliance with 3 auto age, 1 drone age, 3 info age, 2 dig and 1 space age player.

Our alliance is perk 11 with 1 drone age, 1 info, 4 digi, 3 cw and 1 space. The search took 1 hour.

We have never, not once, had a matchup in which we weren't fighting uphill.

It's beyond ridiculous. For as long as I've played this game BHG has continued to implement new features without addressing longstanding bugs. World wars are what makes the game interesting. Without them this is just another farming game.

 

[oddin]

what is your alliance name @kent irwin ?

 

[kent irwin]

what is your alliance name @kent irwin ?

Viginia USA.

 

[oddin]

My suspicions unfortunately proved correct.

Your alliance committed suicide but you don't know it. Almost every player you have is a heavy war weight base that should have advanced age but didn't.

The system sees your overgrown war weight and matches you accordingly. The problem in other words, in that case, is that for some reason you didn't advance to drone or auto age when you could.

 

[Seek]

If you want to play a war weight game it is pretty simple.

1. Get new players to join and stay
2. Sale the new players that only upgrading offense is the way to go.
3. Keep eye on all member that are not your 3 defenders to insure they are are not upgrade tower or any defense including silo.
4. Encourage you Offense Only player that they giant killers till they reach late info and will have to start doing some D.
5. Get ride of players that gain weight trying to make drone age
6. Keep recruiting those Offense Only new players or alt accounts to replace the fat boys you kick.

By playing the lightweight game you can make it into the top 50 seen some make as far top 20. All your battles when you reach top 50 will be low glory wars but if you keep doing the grind you alliance will climb. You will face inferior alliances almost every battle even when you reach top 20 cause of your low war weight. This works seen it done lol not game I want to play but if all your worried about is making the top 20 and don’t want use premiums every battle this is way to go.

Big draw back is the Offense Only sucks when ya reach late Info cause your way behind. But to each their on if war weight game is what ya want but is very boring to me lol

 

[kent irwin]

So BHG's current matching system disincentivizes leveling up bases and troops. That then also disincentivizes buying crowns or whatever to level things up. That in turn would seem to mean that BHG is trying to lower their revenue from sales of crowns, etc. That makes perfect sense for a for- profit business.

 

[Seek]

So BHG's current matching system disincentivizes leveling up bases and troops. That then also disincentivizes buying crowns or whatever to level things up. That in turn would seem to mean that BHG is trying to lower their revenue from sales of crowns, etc. That makes perfect sense for a for- profit business.

Actually I would say that is incorrect. They have it based on war weight and war weight management if you want easier battle carry less war weight want harder battles carry more war weight pretty simple idea truthfully.

 

[kent irwin]

Actually I would say that is incorrect. They have it based on war weight and war weight management if you want easier battle carry less war weight want harder battles carry more war weight pretty simple idea truthfully.

You can say what you will. I can't imagine ours is a unique alliance. As for being disincentivized to add to BHG's revenue you are incorrect I would say. Ask me what incentive I have. So I can better farm in multiplayer?

 

[Seek]

You can say what you will. I can't imagine ours is a unique alliance. As for being disincentivized to add to BHG's revenue you are incorrect I would say. Ask me what incentive I have. So I can better farm in multiplayer?

I think you misunderstand all you need to do is add some lower age bases = some lower weight bases to your alliance. Make alt account or recruit some lower level players to add to ur line up. With the lower war weight you will get easier match ups.