Museum and 6.5 update. Discuss...

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I have collected 5000 fragments the past days, only to use them when the update comes out. I wish I hadn't...
I don't know how to put it but I feel like the categories are mixed up. Previously, when we crafted a pottery artifact, we knew it would contain something like Food reduction for the library, vault bonuses, oil well bonuses and that was it (at least the more interesting ones). If you wanted a jewelry for the all resources bonus, which is the best stat imho, then you knew you will get one rather sooner or later.

Now, there are so many categories, in all types of artifacts, that it is even more difficult to craft something that is worth to keep it. Now, you get a pottery or jewelry artifact with so many different stats that makes no sense. Silo hitpoints, ATG damage, all resources looted, redoubt hitpoints etc. It is a complete mess!! I don't know for others, but for me, museum got a lot more lotto like and obviously, the ones that have already crafted decent artifacts are very lucky because they wont be again any soon!

TL DR: Keep the artifacts you already have cause the odds of crafting decent new ones just got worse! All categories mixed and scrambled!

Let me hear your thoughts on this...maybe I am wrong


P.S. I only kept 2 artifacts which are essential exactly the same. Their only bonus is + Missile Silo Hitpoints
 

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Just keep your armor and legendary and focus on the other ones.
 

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lets suppose you have a decent bonus of + 35% All resources looted from 2 artifacts in jewelry. Do you believe that there will be any decent ones in the future when there are new categories in jewelry like:
-enemy sniper tower hitpoints
-enemy silo damage
and so many others? Not a chance...People will always choose the initial bonus to rss. I believe that the new categories are not bad but they are too many and the artifacts lost their type, their focus if you understand what I mean.

Maybe, they should add one or two new categories that would include only defensive building bonuses instead of adding those to the pre existing artifacts and types.
 

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I have +59% all resources looted from my old artifacts. New jewelry i crafted gives me silo HP, redoubt damage... and other garbage. I would be crazy to switch the old ones for the new ones
 

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I am hearing this and thinking I need to burn through my 30+k fragments saved before I am forced to upgrade tomorrow. I am struggling to understand how Nexon could be dumb enough to screw up jewelry, the one almost universally decent museum category, by diluting the possible good combinations further. I hope it is a mistake, but I am afraid it might not be.

Such an awful design choice.
 

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If jewelry artifacts will be used in wars, the new ones are better than the old ones. cause they lower enemy strenght. but we need space to keep different sets of artifacts, so there goes the crowns! :))
 

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That's precisely why they did this, imo. Now with so many potentially useful but disparate bonuses on each category they're strongly encouraging people to upgrade their storage space. My 3 accounts are at 35, 25, 25 already just to give me some wiggle room whenever I felt like crafting.

To be honest, this feels like the inevitable museum bonuses for wars will probably be in the next update. I can't say I'm too keen on such complete randomness on every possible defense or attacking unit though. Not for multiplayer and certainly not for wars. A strategy game requires a certain amount of knowledge or, educated guesses at the very least, to be functional. Given the erratic AI, and the limited control over your armies this one needs it more than most.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out in the coming months.
 

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I've already made the decision to quit if the current state of the museum comes over to wars. Having all of those pay to win legendary artifacts become a permanent part of the war game just doesn't sound fun at all. Hitting an occasional multiplayer base with surprisingly good defense is just something that happens, but losing wars because of it isn't going to be okay.
 

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With these new artifacts and the current legendary sale, it's clear that artifacts in war is coming very soon. It's hard to envision how they can do this without completely breaking the game, but maybe they will surprise me. I can assure you the whales have already maxed out their current museum artifacts in preparation for this.
 

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This also may be the most top-heavy update they've ever put out. It seems 95% of this is geared toward late CWA players. I understand that there are people who have been close to maxed for awhile now, and they typically pay the bills here, but geez. I hope this archive and speed up thing is incredible when it drops and not just another hamfisted way of squeezing crowns out of folks.

Looks like they're trying to make a push for the next age sooner than I thought.
 
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museum bonuses must never be implemented in wars. This is totally unfair and as @Bootney Lee Fonsworth correctly said,

I can't say I'm too keen on such complete randomness on every possible defense or attacking unit though. Not for multiplayer and certainly not for wars. A strategy game requires a certain amount of knowledge or, educated guesses at the very least, to be functional. Given the erratic AI, and the limited control over your armies this one needs it more than most.

I can't agree more!
 

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So far i partially unlocked/upgraded only 2 artifacts, cause i kinda felt a change is coming. I knew these 2 artifacts will stay, no matter what. What about those who already invested a lot in old artifacts? This change is only good for factory troop users. It wasn't fair for them before. The most unlucky ones are the new players, who have less chances to craft a useful artifact.
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we all share the same hope with you....I wish it will not be a big disappointment
 

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Can't help but notice that Hannibal provides 30% hp to generals on defense only, unless I'm reading it wrong. I'm really not undestanding how raiding and wars are going to be viable if they keep trodding down this path.
 

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With these updates I'm conflicted on if I want to go to CWA right away or focus on improving my base first. Probably the latter considering how weak my defenses are already, I need to spend some time on my last four farms
 

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This is why I have not updated yet. Thinking of getting a long night raid for a final push to get a great jewelry artifact, this is probably the final shot I get.
 

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unpopular opinion, but i dont see things as being so bad.

chance to craft looting artifact has decreased, but they increased battle rss reward in the form of domination bonus, and that bonus works outside the museum boost i think.

the number of options that can appear on a jewelry/pottery was much lower than weapon/armor to begin with, so in a weird way, this is balancing. plus, some of the new options on jewelry artifacts i value more than ‘all rss looted’. i actually used up all my fragments before updating but i wish i hadnt

on a twitch stream they mentioned a future war wing of the museum, which i take to mean a new dedicated slot just for ww, rather than all the artifacts affecting ww. which would be sensible not only for balance but also in practicality since we wont have to have all the members switch their artifacts to defensive ones during the search for a new match, then switch to economic ones to farm, then switch to offensive ones to make a ww attack, etc
 

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I hope they add another category on the museum for us. I think nexon got this wrong. If they give out a bunch of 6’s and 11’s people would spend more upgrading and they could make more $$$ on all points. Being cheap make them less or nothing. Op just proved my point, he had 5000 fragments, I have over 3000 blueprints, nothing is catching my eyes right now.
 

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Please remember to put your resources outside of your walls when you go. And kindly remove all of your defensive artifacts, please.

Pretty sure that's when, not if.
 
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