Nerf the British?

[Delta3519]

I see people playing as different nations (top players included) if British was as OP as everyone clams then everyone or atleast most players would play as British.
I happily play as French

 

[Manifesto]

If they nerf the British I'll likely switch to the Koreans. If Nexon's tanks behaved like tanks should, I'd be playing as the French or Greeks. Tanks need more power!
The problem is not the Brit shooters, it's those lazy, I-want-to-win-in-the-easiest-way-possible spammers who deploy 99 archers and several healers!
Don't hate us smart Brits who use artillery for maximum damage with some shooters for protection!

 

[Master Contrail Program]

Just eliminate all shooters ability to fire over walls. Or, if enclosed town center cannons are a concern, cut their dps against defense buildings in half. Of course then their scan frequency would have to be increased or they'll spend the entire battle whittling away a few buildings while stray ambushers shoot them.

If they must keep their range because, longbowmen (which become muskets after a few months playtime, at most, making that point moot), then they should lose the 15% dps and loot bonuses. The range more than makes up for it on such a cheap and spammable troop.

With paratroopers and their insane hp to take out and/or distract mortars or decoy spam there really is little to stop them late game.

I'd prefer all other nations got a boost too, but look who we're dealing with here. The same crew who decided it was easier to double sabotage/protect/betrayal's space rather than try to make barrage/first aid/demolition viable. Expecting them to add more punch to seven other nations without breaking the game for months seems a bit much. I've been wrong before though.

Do something for the poor Greeks and Japanese though at the very least. I can't imagine the nightmare of finding scrolls and silk at high ages and medals, but that's a story for another post.

 

[Imaera]

I don't think Nexon is ready to reimburse 1000 crowns to every player who switched to british and paid those crowns for a product that no longer fits the description.

 

[Master Contrail Program]

That didn't stop them from nerfing tactics that people could have just as easily paid crowns to improve now did it? Didn't see them offering refunds to Greeks or French when they nerfed heavy cavalry back in the day, huh? Why would or should they reimburse British players?

 

[Evningcome]

Totally agree that the most effective balance here should be to prevent shooters fire above the walls .Your base design have nothing to do here ,simply because British shooters have to deal with only 4 defensive buildings (mortas) which is pretty easy (plantly of options here - planes ,paratroopers , up to 7 demolitions ,up to 7 decoy tactics) Keep in mind that +5 range of this shooters don't trigger in 99% of the situations Town Hall or Castle (so sabotage is not needed) .On top of this shooters are pretty cheap and fast training units and with Tier 2 upgrade in University for +30% health and +30% damage you can spam them basically nonstop . Now tell me how this is fair and balanced , shooters job is to deal with defenders not to be able to clear all base by themselves .I really would like to see some sort of a statement from Developers about their thoughts on nations if they think that they are balanced at this moment .Pick up a nation should've been a hard choice ,not a obvious one ....but of course a huge present of players are British and that's why all this "Don't nerf British ,bring other nations to the British level" are .But in same time we want offense-defense balance ...so if we bring other nations to the British nation level then we will need a very huge boost on defense . Of course there are 2 nations that are ages behind the rest this is Japanise and Greeks but for them new nation bonuses need to be added .

 

[Green Bird]

I also think that all talk of nerfing British would cease if the ability for all archers to shoot over walls were eliminated. Now, were this create difficulty of being able to clear the map in time allotted for each attack, giving the ability to shoot over walls to tanks instead would solve it. This would also be a shot in the arm for poor Greeks being as they are a somewhat unloved civ in this game.

 

[Imaera]

They nerfed tactics for everybody, not just for one nation. And if people paid crowns to improve them, that was their choise. Tactics can be improved without crowns. But you can not switch nations for free. I don't know anything about nerfing greek and french HC. But i do know that is not fair, nor legal to sell a product and deliver only half of it.

 

[Motaz Tarek]

if u buff defense this is the worst choice and doesn't change the fact that British will stay supreme, for example if u make redoubts have more range to detect british shooters that means they will even be more lethal against other nations' shooters and British will remain the best option
imo defense shouldn't recieve any more buffs, enough what has been done to stronghold which MUST be reverted at some point of time in the future, top wars now is completely unplayable without 4 troops cards, top ranks in WW is exclusive for pay2win, and any further defense buff pools in the favor of troop card users, hope the old days come back when we won against an alliance that litterly hammered us with troop cards in offense and defense, skill matters should be the concept of any strategy game, CoC is even much older than dominations and non of this crap nonsense pay2win got added to it

 

[Motaz Tarek]

british shooters bonus damage should be removed
other nations buff i agree, but I don't think it will come to a point that matche the current power of british nation regardless of what buff they do

 

[Master Contrail Program]

Yeah. Beyond poor Greeks and Japanese the rest of the nations seem pretty balanced. At least the Greeks have decent tanks, not as good as French ones since tanks are just bullet sponges and blocking sleds in this game past Industrial Age. Japanese? Just awful all around.

All unique heavy infantry nations get gypped, but fury bonus more than evens the score for Germans. I think Romans could use an economic buff because their UU is the dirt-worst and I don't think 16 extra troops by AA is that great. Sooner or later were going to hit a max troop limit too. Then what happens to the Romans?

Japanese? Again, just awful.

Anyway, going too far off topic here.

 

[Master Contrail Program]

Pretty sure they can change what they want, when they want, for whatever reason they want. Though I must confess I haven't read the entirety of terms and conditions. If you have, feel free to correct me.

This is a few dozen players spitballing on a forum. Unless you see ''Balance Changes: British'' in some official capacity I wouldn't put a lawyer on retainer for that class action suit quite yet.

Anyway, have a lovely day. I'm sure this bone of contention will continue to be buried and dug back up many times in the future.

 

[LordJestix]

The biggest issue i think is that most of the bonuses you get from a nation are just trash and werent thought about for future expansions of the game.

The only reason British are good is because of their troop. the 15% loot bonus doesnt really mean crap.

i went romans from the beginning because of troop size buff but realize how insignificant it really is and will be switching to british as soon as possible

If british didnt have their troops, id switch to chinese because of the extra worker.

Other than that i could really care less about the nation perks for all other nations as none are compelling.

 

[Master Contrail Program]

I don't know. Germans are good solely due to their ability. Yes they have the best heavy infantry but it's only effective for so long. I'd even say French are more popular due to their ability not their tanks. I know I stick with them because playing with my alt seems tedious after getting used to French training times. Out of 140 troops in global I use 3 French tanks. No unit comes close to the British archer though . The loot bonus is probably just sour grapes on my part after seeing 80% of successful attacks on my base these days being British Extra 15% oil is insult to injury when one is saving up 210,000.