WW Artefacts not really working

[arno78]

Hello Domi community.

I've made 3 simple tests on my own ww base as Friendly challenge and depending on what i put in museum tried to see how many planes attacks I need to destroy an isolated Air defense.Results I don't understand. Fyi I'm info Age maxed more or less everything, well at least attack troops and many def towers
1- Empty museum. I need 6 attacks from my planes to destroy Air defense ( I also have +64% dps planes that i kept for the 3 tests)
2- Museum = -50% health all defensive towers. (Then health /2) .I need 5 planes attacks to destroy the same air Defense (????? why not 6-50%=3???)
3-Museum = -85% health all defensive towers (Then health /7 approx). I need 3 planes attack to destroy it. Logically should be 6 planes attack/7, no ? Then 1 attack

So I see something is working putting artefacts but really nothing to do with % announced.

I've made other tests with dps all defensive towers (empty museum, -50% dps all towers and -85% dps all towers) and same conclusion. Test was i take the same 1 plane, how many times he has to be attacked by this same isolated Air defense to be destroy.

Putting this to support ( with videos and calculations), they are not interested looking at this, just giving me basic info on the game like your results also depend on your ennemy museum, bla bla bla ,even i say it is me my ennemy and friendly challenge , just answering that again..pfff

Is anyone able to help me understand or have access to a Dominations Dev or Dominations REAL support, as this makes no sense to me in terms of calculations and logic.

Thx a lot.
PS: Congrats for this new forums look , much better. But would be even more appreciated to invest in more involved support...

 

[ronaldo]

There are many increasing/decreasing effects on buildings and units. I think it has to be more clear. I appreciated your effort for the testing it.

 

[zeltum]

Hello Domi community.

I've made 3 simple tests on my own ww base as Friendly challenge and depending on what i put in museum tried to see how many planes attacks I need to destroy an isolated Air defense.Results I don't understand. Fyi I'm info Age maxed more or less everything, well at least attack troops and many def towers
1- Empty museum. I need 6 attacks from my planes to destroy Air defense ( I also have +64% dps planes that i kept for the 3 tests)
2- Museum = -50% health all defensive towers. (Then health /2) .I need 5 planes attacks to destroy the same air Defense (????? why not 6-50%=3???)
3-Museum = -85% health all defensive towers (Then health /7 approx). I need 3 planes attack to destroy it. Logically should be 6 planes attack/7, no ? Then 1 attack

So I see something is working putting artefacts but really nothing to do with % announced.

I've made other tests with dps all defensive towers (empty museum, -50% dps all towers and -85% dps all towers) and same conclusion. Test was i take the same 1 plane, how many times he has to be attacked by this same isolated Air defense to be destroy.

Putting this to support ( with videos and calculations), they are not interested looking at this, just giving me basic info on the game like your results also depend on your ennemy museum, bla bla bla ,even i say it is me my ennemy and friendly challenge , just answering that again..pfff

Is anyone able to help me understand or have access to a Dominations Dev or Dominations REAL support, as this makes no sense to me in terms of calculations and logic.

Thx a lot.
PS: Congrats for this new forums look , much better. But would be even more appreciated to invest in more involved support...

Have done the same and you are right. But they dont want to know. I get the same response (many different things effect.. blah blah) but thats rubbish if you are attacking yourself and do it, as you did, in a controlled manner. Its the same for normal pvp museum artefacts too.

problem really is the stupid level 1 firewall of customer support. They dont understand and therefore repeate the same old drivel back to you.

unless you are spending 10k crowns a week and have access to the ‘special whiners club’ (the ones who didnt like it and complained when they got helo’d by lower ranks) then you will get zero support or understanding on this.

 

[Tetsuko]

Hello Domi community.

I've made 3 simple tests on my own ww base as Friendly challenge and depending on what i put in museum tried to see how many planes attacks I need to destroy an isolated Air defense.Results I don't understand. Fyi I'm info Age maxed more or less everything, well at least attack troops and many def towers
1- Empty museum. I need 6 attacks from my planes to destroy Air defense ( I also have +64% dps planes that i kept for the 3 tests)
2- Museum = -50% health all defensive towers. (Then health /2) .I need 5 planes attacks to destroy the same air Defense (????? why not 6-50%=3???)
3-Museum = -85% health all defensive towers (Then health /7 approx). I need 3 planes attack to destroy it. Logically should be 6 planes attack/7, no ? Then 1 attack

So I see something is working putting artefacts but really nothing to do with % announced.

I've made other tests with dps all defensive towers (empty museum, -50% dps all towers and -85% dps all towers) and same conclusion. Test was i take the same 1 plane, how many times he has to be attacked by this same isolated Air defense to be destroy.

Putting this to support ( with videos and calculations), they are not interested looking at this, just giving me basic info on the game like your results also depend on your ennemy museum, bla bla bla ,even i say it is me my ennemy and friendly challenge , just answering that again..pfff

Is anyone able to help me understand or have access to a Dominations Dev or Dominations REAL support, as this makes no sense to me in terms of calculations and logic.

Thx a lot.
PS: Congrats for this new forums look , much better. But would be even more appreciated to invest in more involved support...

The library and university can increase the HP of the air defense by 50%.

I don't know the formula, so I can't say, but if an air defense without the buff from the library and university in addition to the museum is destroyed in 3.5 attacks (i.e. actually 4 attacks), then adding the buff from the library and university would destroy it in 3.5 x 1.5 = 5.25 attacks (i.e. 6 attacks).

Your second verification cancels out the library and university buffs, so the air defense would be destroyed in 3.5 x (1.5-0.5) = 3.5 attacks (i.e., 4 attacks). Since your verification indicates that 5 attacks were required, this formula is probably not accurate, although it is correct to some extent.

If we calculate the third verification in the same way, the air defense would be destroyed in 3.5 x (1.5-0.85) = 2.275 attacks (i.e., 3 attacks).

 

[EnessD7]

would be very nice if we could click on an enemy player in world war and then get a screen where all numbers that would impact the attack be listed like: 1 table list of all my stats, right next to it same but from enemy player, and then 3th table = summary of whats left = the result
for example: ive +10 heavy tank damage, the enemy has -5 enemy heavy tank damage, result = +5 ht damage
this would help a lot

 

[oddin]

CS really believes that museum is not affecting friendly challenges.... Been talking to them for weeks with actual proof and they refuse to open their eyes. And you are trying to make them understand much more difficult things.

 

[EnessD7]

CS really believes that museum is not affecting friendly challenges.... Been talking to them for weeks with actual proof and they refuse to open their eyes. And you are trying to make them understand much more difficult things.

lol, well i dont mind if the friendly challenges dont apply all boosts as in ww, aslong as ww does.. i know, friendly challenges are meant as training area but ww area has still a lot to fix and i think thats a life time work cuz each time they bring out new stuff, this has to be applied in ww: fix new bugs and work out all interactions between this new building or update and all already existing.. but idd would be very nice if friendly challenges would work as its supposed to do

for me my reaction above was more to inform us about all that happens in ww: we get a summary and know why or how ww will happen or happend, cuz sometimes my ht die quickly in ww while they have between 150 and 200k hp, thats like a towncenter on wheels XD explain to me how they die quickly? and no, the enemy didnt had artifacts with hp reduction for ht..
for me the most important part in the game is the museum, followed by the university + the buildings in the city. council is like a little version of the museum and its way to early to have many players who are strong in that one..