Zoonies brother of Loonies

[john99]

Is this a new trend? Does Player level & Age factors in Victory points so much?

 

[Eddie F1]

I think I'll try it, looks a lot more fun than the 99% annoyance of playing IA at Empire 3.

Don't even have to buy the starter pack by the looks of it.

 

[Nathan Win]

Interesting new trend

 

[Smallville]

Yea I had seen this just yesterday. I think it's photoshopped.

 

[Hunter Killer]

This is real, no photoshop. By the time you guys understand how this works, Loonies will be #1.

Proving a point that the leaderboard is broken and they can go redesign their medal system and matchmaking algorithm.

I hope BHG is smart enough to acknowledge their shortcomings rather than ban Loonies subjectively, who is playing by the rules. If they do, they'll be many more accounts doing the same thing anyway. He has only showed the way, more will follow.

If I were them, I'd contact Loonies and offer him a game designer job. This guy is smart.

 

[john99]

Restriction in Player experience level & Change in Battle matchmaking will come into equation if Nexon don't want players to shoot up like this. Whole dimension of the Gameplay is at stake with this approach

 

[MadFury]

This is exactly why they should remove the age restriction completely! There's no equivalent of a loonies in other similar games. Since his base would have been ransacked for medals long ago.

 

[Ravenlord]

But these bases can never progress through the ages! The minute they approach GP they're gonna get hammered. So what's the motivation - to be No1 with a lvl 8 base??! Seems like an interesting experiment but pretty pointless from a ''advance your base'' perspective.

 

[Eddie F1]

What Loonies & Zoonies are doing is exactly what should happen - the current system is ridiculous, start game, spend the first 12 months grinding away to max out your base then try climb medals, meeting 'No Opponent' along the way.

Let's take boxing. 17 weight divisions. Who's the best boxer? Who's a World Champion? Who was the greatest? Currently we have Klitschko, Mayweather, Pacquiao and down in Flyweight Estrada. We don't see Klitschko Vs Estrada matches just because they've both won the same bouts or titles.

It's not difficult to 'weigh' each base and let equivalent weights scrap it out - create different Leader Boards for each weight.

Whoever thought the current matchmaking/reward system would work should resign and go back to Game Design school, it's not fit for purpose.

 

[Ravenlord]

Agreed, but l still shake my head at loonie & zoonie as they will never be able to build their perfect base with this strategy.

Sure they get great bonuses 'up there' - but how could they use it? Seems like a couple of tech weenies were bored one day .....

 

[Hunter Killer]

What's the point of being at the top of the leaderboard? Just to flatter your ego, same with having the maxed out IA base.

Once you get either of these, you've finished the game. The devs assume you needed to have both at the same time to finish the game.

The oonies are showing that you can finish the game without having to develop your base. No need to spend time and money on the game.

It's extremely clever if you think about it. They've understood the whole game mechanics and used it to their advantage.

Bottom line and message for the devs: remove age in the matchmaking algorithm. Or find a better solution.

Sometimes replying to a post of Tim Train on the medal system gets you nowhere. So you prove them in real life why it should be changed.

 

[Magnifico]

Apparently, what J.er2 was doing was legit. You guys are talking as if Zoonies and Loonies are doing the same thing, just at an earlier age. However, Ironangel says otherwise. Maybe J.er2 is a good enough case to make the point you guys want to make. We're not getting the whole story here on the forums, but from what Ironangel has said it seems that Zoonies and Loonies are not.

 

[Loonies]

What Ironangel has done is to shut down debate on the meaning of 'legit' before it even gets started. The strategy I'm pursuing uses only capabilities of the published game that are available to everyone, however due to the shortcomings in the game design it is not an outcome that Ironangel might like. In addition, Ironangel may be feeling a bit awkward after having given us great help in the beginning as we were starting down this path.

 

[Eddie F1]

I thought the other thread was closed due to my comment.

Anyway there's a new kid on the block

 

[Hunter Killer]

Much easier to close a thread than to discuss the fundamental game mechanics.

What happens here is threatening their whole business model. Why would people pay to upgrade their base, fast train, buy mercenaries and blessings etc... with crowns if you can be #1 in the leaderboard with the most basic account?

This has me wondering why I am still playing with my IA account. If I really want to play for the leaderboard, I just need a bronze age account. Playing my IA account now feels like playing farmville, upgrading buldings for no purpose. We can never take #1 anymore once Loonies gets there.

 

[Porcupine]

Apparently, what J.er2 was doing was legit. You guys are talking as if Zoonies and Loonies are doing the same thing, just at an earlier age. However, Ironangel says otherwise. Maybe J.er2 is a good enough case to make the point you guys want to make. We're not getting the whole story here on the forums, but from what Ironangel has said it seems that Zoonies and Loonies are not.

What's not legit about him? What whole story? The only story is that this strategy will not be profitable to the company if it gets popular.

 

[Aurelius...]

The game and the forums are getting quiet anyway. They've taken a great game and tweaked it until it's become quite boring. People are throwing in the towel. If the loonies strategy keeps people interested, who knows? Maybe it's for the best...

 

[Ravenlord]

And the game would be uber boring if this strategy became popular .....

 

[Hunter Killer]

Just to be clear, this is not Loonies fault if he can make it to the top. It's the developers fault who haven't designed the system properly, can't/won't fix force quit, no opponents and broken peace treaties. Players like Loonies love to see how they can break the system and get ahead of the pack, all within the limits set by the game, no cheating whatsoever. Just being smarter than everyone else.

If BHG doesn't want him to win this way, they can allow everyone to attack everyone based on medal range. Then he'll get crush by an IA army and this won't happen again. This will fix the no opponents issue to a certain extent as well.

And for the devs, don't worry, people with max IA army won't be lurking at 200 medals to smash a bronze age base for fun. There is no loot to be taken so no one will do that. People will only start climbing the medal ladder when they are ready to compete. The high level accounts will still be at the top for the big league bonuses and leaderboard competition. I don't see a risk of IA players abusing bronze age players just for fun.

 

[Ravenlord]

No - they'll only abuse them for the diamonds .....