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War Reparations:
+20% War Loot = 80K Gold + 80Food + 1200 Oild. less than loot from a single raid

Sentries:
20% HP / 20% DPS / 10% attach speed for Sentry Tower.
Nice Technology, Though I prefer +1 limit to be part of the research

Mobile Force
drop 3 Infrantry every 8s.
Another great buff for British.

Rotorcraft
+40% DPS / 20%HP for attack helcopter, sound like a big buff, but AH's dps is still low, and unsable in war
 
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Attack helicopters will still be useless due to sniper towers. The heli hp buff and sniper tower damage buff cancel each other out. Actually, the 10% attack speed is +10% dps, so they will go down even faster. Sniper towers easy destroy attack helis, as they are the furthest unit, and get focused down.

APC upgrades are the best IMHO. They benefit Germans the most, as they spawn unique units.
 
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Quovatis said:
Attack helicopters will still be useless due to sniper towers. The heli hp buff and sniper tower damage buff cancel each other out. Actually, the 10% attack speed is +10% dps, so they will go down even faster. Sniper towers easy destroy attack helis, as they are the furthest unit, and get focused down.


APC upgrades are the best IMHO. They benefit Germans the most, as they spawn unique units.
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Sniper Tower is a problem for AH, but not the major one. the real problem of AH is low dps
And though german got the best APC, But APC is most used by Nations with Range Infantry UU, I believe British will be more OP now
 
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AHs were fantastic before sniper towers. I used them all the time. Their low damage is not the issue.

APCs don't spawn rifles. Brit players typically don't use APCs as they offer no advantage, as they have a smaller range than their UU shooters.
 
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Quovatis said:
AHs were fantastic before sniper towers. I used them all the time. Their low damage is not the issue.

APCs don't spawn rifles. Brit players typically don't use APCs as they offer no advantage, as they have a smaller range than their UU shooters.
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APC is a replacement of tank, and DPS from Heavy Infrantry spawned by APC is very limited compare with large rifle army, That's why Rifle nations love APC, but not German

And I am interested if you can share how you use AH in war, Maybe you should share some vedio
 
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Is there a research for sentry tower? Sentry towers aren't even permanent buildings.. am i missing something?
 
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Quite possibly... not the bazooka sentry towers. The actual sentry towers.
 
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The first sentence makes no sense to me. There are so many errors there I can't follow what you're saying.

Before sniper towers, 4 heavy tanks and the rest AHs were a very effective combo. But again, it doesn't work now with sniper towers.
 
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I can hop in and give a full breakdown of the new Library techs!

War Reparations
Chapter 1: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 2: +10% Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 3: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 4: +10%Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 5: +10%Oil War Loot Rewards

Sentries
Chapter 1: +10%Sniper Tower hitpoints
Chapter 2: +10% Sniper Tower damage
Chapter 3: +10%Sniper Tower hitpoints
Chapter 4: +10% Sniper Tower damage
Chapter 5: +10% Sniper Tower attack speed

Mobile Forces
Chapter 1: +10%APC hitpoints
Chapter 2: +20% APC attack
Chapter 3: +10% APC hitpoints
Chapter 4: Reduces APC troop deployment cooldown by 1 second
Chapter 5: +1 troop per deployment from APC

Rotorcraft
Chapter 1: +10%Attack Helicopter hitpoints
Chapter 2: +10%Attack Helicopter damage
Chapter 3: +10%Attack Helicopter hitpoints
Chapter 4: +10%Attack Helicopter damage
Chapter 5: +20% Attack Helicopter damage against defensive buildings
 
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TinSoldier said:
I can hop in and give a full breakdown of the new Library techs!

War Reparations
Chapter 1: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 2: +10% Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 3: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 4: +10%Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 5: +10%Oil War Loot Rewards

Sentries
Chapter 1: +10%Sniper Tower hitpoints
Chapter 2: +10% Sniper Tower damage
Chapter 3: +10%Sniper Tower hitpoints
Chapter 4: +10% Sniper Tower damage
Chapter 5: +10% Sniper Tower attack speed

Mobile Forces
Chapter 1: +10%APC hitpoints
Chapter 2: +20% APC attack
Chapter 3: +10% APC hitpoints
Chapter 4: Reduces APC troop deployment cooldown by 1 second
Chapter 5: +1 troop per deployment from APC

Rotorcraft
Chapter 1: +10%Attack Helicopter hitpoints
Chapter 2: +10%Attack Helicopter damage
Chapter 3: +10%Attack Helicopter hitpoints
Chapter 4: +10%Attack Helicopter damage
Chapter 5: +20% Attack Helicopter damage against defensive buildings
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Thanks for that, can you give us the Resource cost and upgrade time as well for each? Will help us for the wiki.
 
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TinSoldier said:
I can hop in and give a full breakdown of the new Library techs!

War Reparations
Chapter 1: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 2: +10% Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 3: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 4: +10%Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 5: +10%Oil War Loot Rewards
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While this is another step in the right direction, its still not enough.

Clash of clans gives(with clan perks) 25% war loot bonus across the board and this is something that is obtained without spending resources to research.

I would much rather see it in our alliance levels and not a library tech, but if we must go the tech route, I think it needs to be redone.

It should change to 5% war loot bonus(per level) for a total of 25% for all resources at a minimum.

BUT being that its such a late library tech, i think it needs to be more. Probably needs to be at least 10% per level(for all resources). The more ages we add, the more expensive its going to be to make the troops needed to win wars.
 
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yea war loot is still a big letdown, a 100% increase is the minimum as a satisfactory reward for 2 days, i always close the game and stop collecting resources from MP for 1-2 hours after a war attack for troops and tactics regeneration, the current loot from war + the new bonus is still not satisfactory enougg

attack helicopter... needs a massive Hp boost, sniper towers obliterate it so quickly

sniper towers... for god sake stop boosting that stupid building, anyone other than british will find his VIP units getting wiped from the start of the battle by these stupid snipers, idk who is the brainless guy thought of adding this unit to the game, any nation with shooter range of 4 will get their howies at the back all the time while british will have their shooters and howies on the same line with a much less chance for their howies to be the target of snipers, thank god am switching to british soon and leave that hell of sniper towers

apcs are a buff to all and i find it useful to me as a roman now, it's not a buff to british only cuz british is awesome for their shooters capabilities, so don't blame the beauty of apcs for it
 
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War Reparations feels like it should be an EA or IA level tech, not Atomic. Is any consideration given to beefing up earlier levels of the tech tree, or will they always be tacked onto the end?
 
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BeerMan said:
War Reparations feels like it should be an EA or IA level tech, not Atomic. Is any consideration given to beefing up earlier levels of the tech tree, or will they always be tacked onto the end?
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Any new techs have always been added at the end of the tree, with exception of when they added the 5th chapter to all tech trees.
 
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TinSoldier said:
I can hop in and give a full breakdown of the new Library techs!

War Reparations
Chapter 1: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 2: +10% Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 3: +10%Gold War Loot Rewards
Chapter 4: +10%Food War Loot Rewards
Chapter 5: +10%Oil War Loot Rewards

Sentries
Chapter 1: +10%Sniper Tower hitpoints
Chapter 2: +10% Sniper Tower damage
Chapter 3: +10%Sniper Tower hitpoints
Chapter 4: +10% Sniper Tower damage
Chapter 5: +10% Sniper Tower attack speed

Mobile Forces
Chapter 1: +10%APC hitpoints
Chapter 2: +20% APC attack
Chapter 3: +10% APC hitpoints
Chapter 4: Reduces APC troop deployment cooldown by 1 second
Chapter 5: +1 troop per deployment from APC

Rotorcraft
Chapter 1: +10%Attack Helicopter hitpoints
Chapter 2: +10%Attack Helicopter damage
Chapter 3: +10%Attack Helicopter hitpoints
Chapter 4: +10%Attack Helicopter damage
Chapter 5: +20% Attack Helicopter damage against defensive buildings
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Why other players (lower ages) should unable to use WAR REPARATIONS advantages? as current war loot rewards are not much a interesting stuff in war for everyone ? I'm in Enlightenment age and most of the time can income more than current war reward in battles! wars takes a lot of cost to each attack then they are not economic much! we can loot more than this current reward by normal troops (without using mec, tactics, generals,...) in battles!

it was better u increased rewards for everyone!
 
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