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ratata

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I already got your point the first time and I'm afraid you are not getting the point.
You keep telling all 0SH alliance put the 0SH in their name to deceive other alliances but that's not the case.
In fact, I don't think we have ever seen a 'normal' alliance not fill SH's at all during the long time being part of 0SH (unless maybe with huge mismatches once or twice)

We do put it in our name or motto for the simple fact to recognize each other.
Although I can imagine it can be confusing and thus understand what you are saying, it is still wrong of you to keep telling we do it on purpose for the wrong reason.
 

No Angel

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First of all, it is not hatred! No black campaign against 0SH's. It's just that if you are in a community, you won't need to put that 0SH in the name that leads to a confusion! You won't expect a lipstick that says in is packaging "True Red"and it comes out as "Pale Pink" ;) if that makes sense?
Happy Eid Mubarak for those who celebrate. And let's watch Jurassic World! :D
 

Mat 3 BloodyBarons

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Hi I was not complaining just surprised, have a question for you, how to make contact with another alliance for an agreement and how to be part of your list for 0 SH and 0 TT, I would like to try some WW without TT and SH, How to register, thanks for your help and for your comment.
Regards
 

Imaera

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Can't believe what i'm reading, lol. @Mcnasty your nickname suits you, though it's kinda lame to debate something you do not fully understand. And yes, i did read all of your comments before.
@Mat, you need to install Line or Discord.
 

Cannibals

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Why not add ?SH or ?TT to alliance name and then when two such alliances meet they can both update to 0SH or 0TT and seal the deal?
 

yemen

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Mcnasty We would love to have a long and detailed description of what 0SH is and how it works in a place that was immediately and extremely obvious to everyone we matched. Please ask Nexon for that, and a way to directly visit enemy alliances from the war screen. While you are at it, can we get a way to directly message between alliances, and a way to put up persistent messages in our alliance inbox, and bypass the character limits on those? Communication in this game is awful, and character limits are everywhere. Limiting it to 3 characters means people can easily fit it in somewhere, and even that much was a topic of some debate when the agreement was made. We are working around a completely lousy game interface, and you want to blame us instead of Nexon.
But even better, have Nexon add a checkbox to the war search where it says 0SH (and one for 0TT) and then you can only match teams that agree, and nexon enforces the rules in game. We would choose 0TT every time. Go back to the pre SH days, where time tie breakers were not relevant.

If anyone is 0SH, or contacts us and says they would like to play 0SH, we agree to it and abide by the rules. When we see a team that we know from experience (or glory, or motto) will load their SHs against us, we match at some level. Anytime two alliances over 25k glory match, full SHs are basically guaranteed unless an agreement is made or a really bad mismatch occurred.

Anyone who wants to join, there are groups on discord and line. The discord invitation link: https://discord.gg/3aXWuUv
 

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The discord invitation link for 0SH: https://discord.gg/3aXWuUv

You can also join on line, but discord can be fully used in a web browser, no need to even install the app unless you choose to.
 

No Angel

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Can anyone say who invented this 0SH on-demand? Is he present in this forum?!
 

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All this talk about an OSH team who filled their strongholds. The OSH team faced a non-OSH team and expected that team to fill their stronghold. The OSH team did what they did according to acceptable rules of engagement.
It’s no-ones fault that the non-OSH team decided to play by OSH rules.
 

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Is there any reason that 0SH cannot publish its rules once a month on this forum and/or the DomiNations Reddit?
 

sileepuppee

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It's been around for a while now (Not sure how long really) but people like my alliance play enough to enjoy ourselves but not so much that we use WeChat, discord, or whatever else gets used. We don't talk outside the game really other than the ones of us that know each other personally. That being said while I know there are plenty of people that will google things about this game, watch videos, read the forums (Like myself) to improve on their abilities and there are just as many people who don't. So the idea of 0SH will always be a foreign thing to them. It would actually be better if you didn't look up what that stood for that way no one feels cheated when they assume there's not going to be troop cards waiting for them. I also don't understand where the confusion/anger is coming from and it's not about alliances falsely labeling themselves. I know there will be those that are just using it to cheat people because it's just a label. If your alliance isn't 0SH you don't have to follow any rules which is great. Don't worry about the other alliance following any suggested guidelines and just do what you do. It's already been said several times in this thread but running into an 0SH alliance for the first time really gets you in trouble should you decide and find out what the label means. My alliance lost 400 glory in that fight and after that, never again.
 

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As this problem does not implicate the entire player base, but only alliance leaders—who one might reasonably assume make a special effort to be aware of the game’s multifarious details by reading or participating in online fora, including this one—a periodic reposting of the 0SH rules would dispel the claim that 0SH is a trick for the unwary. It would have the added benefit of supporting the 0SH movement by drawing attention to its concerns and promoting broader participation. The flip side of placing the burden on unknowing individuals is the responsibility for ensuring that those individuals have fair notice. The availability of this solution means that there is no need to consider removing the 0SH tag, but there is a responsibility to promulgate its meaning fairly. A cursory examination of this forum and Reddit however suggests that no such effort has been undertaken. Those who organize 0SH and maintain its rules would do well to publicize them on at least a monthly basis to accommodate newcomers and sustain the vitality of the program. If this were done, it would (among other things) be a sufficient defense against any charges of unfairness.
 

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As this problem does not implicate the entire player base, but only alliance leaders—who one might reasonably assume make a special effort to be aware of the game’s multifarious details by reading or participating in online fora, including this one—a periodic reposting of the 0SH rules would dispel the claim that 0SH is a trick for the unwary. It would have the added benefit of supporting the 0SH movement by drawing attention to its concerns and promoting broader participation. The flip side of placing the burden on unknowing individuals is the responsibility for ensuring that those individuals have fair notice. The availability of this solution means that there is no need to consider removing the 0SH tag, but there is a responsibility to promulgate its meaning fairly. A cursory examination of this forum and Reddit however suggests that no such effort has been undertaken. Those who organize 0SH and maintain its rules would do well to publicize them on at least a monthly basis to accommodate newcomers and sustain the vitality of the program. If this were done, it would (among other things) be a sufficient defense against any charges of unfairness.
Really, unfairness? Where was the unfairness? An OSH team went up againgst a non-OSH team. Unless there’s communication beforehand anything goes.
Besides, this is war. You do what you have to, to get the job done. All this talk of unfairness, like it’s a chivalrous duel ! :D
 

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ratata

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It's a good idea to share the 0SH rules, although it seems meaningless to repeat them every month as they almost never change.
Here they are:


0SH rules

When two alliances that both have the 0SH tag set before the war search started are matched, they will war with the following rules of engagement.
It is recommended to always contact the other team to confirm the rules.

1) Do NOT donate any troops to the Stronghold on the war map for defense.
2) Do NOT use Elephant troops (Archers, Seige, etc.) during war offense/attack.
3) Bazooka tower or bazooka sentry to be moved to the edge of the map.


Further Clarification

0SH TAG

In order to identify your alliance as participating in the scheme, your alliance must use the "0SH" in the alliance motto, and optionally in the alliance name (to aid visibility for unsearchable alliances, and make it easier to identify a 0SH match)

RULE 1
Whenever alliances with this tag meet each other, there will be NO defensive troop tactics in strongholds either side.

Accidental donations should be rectified ASAP by contacting the opponent and arranging terms.
These terms may include matching the accidental donations, or agreeing to play non-0SH for this war.

RULES 2 & 3
Troop Tactics can be used in attacks at either alliance's discretion, except for Elephants.
Zooka tower or sentry to be placed on the edge of the map for quick destruction.


OPTIONAL EXTENDED ARRANGEMENTS

Optionally, alliances can choose to take it to the next logical level, and use only two cards per attack, or no cards at all (attack or defense) or even choose to use no coalitions.

A list of alliances interested in going that bit further can be identified in the contact list with [2TT] or [0TT] next to the contact name.


BREACHING THE RULES

In the event of accidental stronghold donations, or use of elephants troops on offense, a representative of the offending alliance should contact the other to arrange terms to even out the mistake.
The same goes for any breach of extended arrangements.

In the first instance, every attempt should be made to resolve disputes in a friendly way between the alliances involved, before being brought into a public forum.


BLACKLIST

Any alliance found to be abusing the tags, or failing to satisfactorily resolve accidental donations/attack cards shall be added to a blacklist maintained in this group.
Any match against a blacklisted alliance should proceed as if they are not in the scheme.
 

Blacknife686

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This movement has been around for at least a year or 2 now; so it really does astound me people don't know how it works. The rules of engagement have been posted meticulously over hundreds is not thousands of posts, and there are plenty of external channels to follow further discussions. There is NO excuse to be ignorant towards the different 0sh and 0TT movements, as I've pointed out above, it's EVERYWHERE.

If you or a member of your alliance has no knowledge of either of these terms, when obviously they have no care for the DOMI community and therefore are immediately waving their right to argue the system. Stop using 0sh as an excuse for loosing war, because just like looking both ways before crossing the road, it's common knowledge.

P.S. I'm not from a 0sh or 0TT alliance and still know how it works.
 
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