Best Nation Discussion, Again

WarLord

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With the rebalance, most of us had to play with our troop composition. Some have changed nations looking for the edge we once had. I was British and Korean with my 2 accounts. I am now Greek and Roman. I am liking the Romans a litte more than the Koreans given the larger army. Giving up the extra tactic stinks but the 40% damage my rifles had just doesn't cut it anymore. Same with the British rifles, the plus one range is negated now given the fact that every defensive building can kill you now, before the only building we had to worry about were mortars.

Using the Greek Nation I was looking for the tanks to break the back of the defense, but, by the time they do that I've run out of time and 5 stars are rare unless I drop medals and hit a lower base. The game has really become a drag. You can't 5 star bases unless you drop medals, then you hit a few, then you have to drop again.

Anyway, I think the best nation now has to be German or Roman. You either need sheer numbers to win or sheer power and these are the only 2 Nations I see that can fit the bill.

Your thoughts??
 

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I think most people agree that the Germans and Romans are probably the best nations after the rebalance, for the reasons you stated above, but I'm going to try and make a case for some of the other nations too, because I think they're not as poor as some people think they are.

The French and Greeks both have pretty awesome tanks that are on a par with Heavy Tanks in terms of their health stats (but unfortunately not DPS) and many of my alliance members have shown me that they can be very effective in combination with the right troops. On top of that the French have their reduction in training time which has become all the more relevant since the rebalance and the resulting increased chance of losing all your troops in battle.

The most underrated nation as far as I'm concerned are the Chinese (although I'm slightly biased 'cos that's my nation). Their shooters are pretty useless now but the extra mercenary space means you can bring another tank into battle with you. But by far the biggest advantage for this nation is the extra worker - everyone is always complaining about upgrade times and slow progress through the ages, well having an extra worker makes a huge time difference in the long run. And to top it all off, you get a few extra defenders in your town centre too (although, quite frankly, they don't make that much difference) In other words the Chinese have economic, defensive and offensive bonuses - a good all-round choice

As you've already mentioned, the Koreans have the extra tactic which can make a huge difference in wars (assuming you don't use many tactics in MP attack)

Whereas the Japanese just stink - not sure why anybody would choose this nation. Actually I take that back - If all you want to do is farm and never attack they're a very good nation (just to clarify, I'm talking about the Japanese nation in this game - not in real life. Some of my best friends are Japanese and they don't smell at all hahaha!)
 
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oddin

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well, as far as nations is concerned, I believe that it all comes down to what your playstyle is.
French - if you play often and want to raid back to back
Germans - If factory is your thing and you are a WW veteran and all you want is using HTs in regular mp and WWs.
Romans - If all you want is using HTs in regular mp and WWs or wanna loot with endless foot soldiers

BUT since I was French and then switched to German, I can assure you that German's unique ability is awesome. That is my preferred nation.

After the rebalance, I am using a unit combo that is nation independent. It can work equally fine no matter what nation someone uses.
You can read it all here: https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...dragged-me-out-of-the-mud-after-the-rebalance
 

Rogue Squirrel

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The Brits, of course, have the 15% loot bonus, which can also have a massive benefit in the long run. And despite people saying their shooters aren't any good anymore, most of the people I come across in war are still British, so they can't be that bad
 

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it will sound weird, but the last 3 weeks, only 3 people got 3+ stars in my base.
2 of them were using all HT MK7s and were German - they got 3 and 4 stars respectively
1 had 155 shooters, 2 bombers, 1 plane and 4 dynamites and was British - he got 4 stars
 

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well, as far as nations is concerned, I believe that it all comes down to what your playstyle is.
French - if you play often and want to raid back to back
Germans - If factory is your thing and you are a WW veteran and all you want is using HTs in regular mp and WWs.
Romans - If all you want is using HTs in regular mp and WWs or wanna loot with endless foot soldiers

BUT since I was French and then switched to German, I can assure you that German's unique ability is awesome. That is my preferred nation.

After the rebalance, I am using a unit combo that is nation independent. It can work equally fine no matter what nation someone uses.
You can read it all here: https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexon...-the-rebalance
I can affirm that wrathchild's idea is nation independent. And very effective. :D
Also, as Rogue Squirrel said, the British loot bonus is nothing to be sneezed at. Plus, their plus one range still works. Even before adopting wrathchild's idea and before further medal drops, my brits were still performing as before, albeit with some more losses than usual.
Dropping medals is a good way to keep raiding with the brits but wrathchild's combo works well around 1200-1400 medals, at least for me.
The Germans with HTs are receiving good propaganda at the moment but against CW bases like mine, multiple walls, they suck, even before the rebalance. They get overwhelmed by troops. Be picky with your bases.
I have Global Greeks and I haven't really dropped any medals with them. They still beat up bases at 1000 medals but I don't attack as much as I used to. More losses means more downtime.
I remember my German footsies worked well in IA but I can't speak for them or for Romans in higher ages.
The bottom line is, different nations work on different bases and at different levels. No one nation is the best at everything. Be selective with your nation and with your bases.

WarLord , at what age and what medals do your romans work for you? What's your combo?

ps: when I say my brits and Greeks are still winning, I'm talking about 4-5 stars with just regular troops, maybe a general. Very rarely do I use mercs or cards or tactics for normal raiding. (even after the 'rebalance'). There's still life in the game without HTs. :D
 
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WarLord

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Manfesto, right now I am around 1300 medals, and am using 1 Healer, 4 Tanks, 7 Artillery, and the rest Rifles, also have 3 planes and I try and get 3 Howitzers from donated troops and I have demolitions which I usually need all of them.
 

Manifesto

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I suggest you drop the healer and an artillery unit and add another tank and some rifles.
That's the combo my Greeks do well with.
Just a suggestion. :D
 

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i think of chinese as the comparator that other nations compare against. -- 1 extra worker vs a tactical perk.
the rebalance 'nerfed' everyone into a new context; chinese were 'buffed' in comparison.
 

No Angel

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I still stick to French and Brits :)
All nations are preferable, really. Why would this game provide 8 nations if you have to rate 1 nation the best? Everything depends on your game style.
 
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