Big round of Applause to those crying 'nerf the French and thier training blessing'

MadFury

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I think it's a great time to congratulate all the players who spent all this time crying and complaining that the French and the training blessing needed to be nerfed. As expected the developers granted thier wish. We can specifically give an extra round of applause to the leaders of the Anti-French lynch mob Redgar and Gambrinus. As a result we can now all enjoy yet another nerf to the training blessing (the second one while we await a 3rd). Along with an even more expensive training blessing in terms of resources. There have been quite a few complaint about a lot of issues in the game. Some of which have been incredibly deleterious to the game as a whole. Yet they all fall on deaf ears. However when a handful of complainers scream louder than everyone they get thier wish and we get slammed once again. Nice job developers on allowing yourselves to be convinced. And thanks for not listening to the rest of us who actually had to work our way through all those ages where the French are worthless as we now become the most useless nation yet again. I think it's time for many of to decide if the games still worth playing...
 
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Stay positive ;) we'll get a buff for french if we work together. If they buff their natural speed up to 30% which will be applied to factory and air units, they will be a fair power house.

My influence on devs is high, no doubt, but do not overestimate it rofl )))
 

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While i believe that 5 starring should have been buffed before french tb raiders nerfed. We all knew this was coming because it was so op. Redgar, gamb and myself are all french. So when french players say there needs to be a nerf its probably true. they have perspective. get u some
 

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I'm not here to ask for the option of the USA Elite alliance. You can all come complain here together. However I doubt any of you started playing as the French, just switch to them like everyone else and never went through that pain in the ass growth stages you have to go through as the French. I don't know when 20% faster training speed became 'traning half as fast' like some of these imbeciles were claiming. This post won't last long before it gets deleted and I get banned again. But at least we know who the rest of us can blame. As for perspective here's some, the French are the only nation with no offensive or economic bonuses what so ever. They have the only unique which gets more expensive in terms of train time, troop space and resources. And that 20% (which used to be 15% before we got a much needed buff) hardly made up for all the negatives. In particular for the rest of us who don't spend all day playing.
 

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TL;DR they nerfed my free resource train so time to take to General Discussion, do a bit of crying, and threaten to quit.

The doors right there, but, I have a feeling you're not going anywhere.
 
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MadFury

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Many of us have had plenty of reasons to quit. This is just more fuel for that fire. But crying is all I've seen these guys do. Calling out stupid decisions when someone else's crying gets rewarded is good way to point out a problem. I'm not the one on the USA elite band wagon, that's your job.
 

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I really don't understand how this is a French specific nerf at all. Seems French 20% reduced training time remains, only change is a global one where we all now pay more for a blessing that lasts longer, is less effective, but includes factory troops. The training time will will be globally reduced for everyone equally, with French still at an advantage. Nothing changes in terms of balance, just everyone will take a little more time training on TB.
 

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Lol, what a pain he suffered steam-rolling bases with overpowered HC. Or you talk about that pain in iron age? Just to clarify.
 

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I really don't understand how this is a French specific nerf at all. Seems French 20% reduced training time remains, only change is a global one where we all now pay more for a blessing that lasts longer, is less effective, but includes factory troops. The training time will will be globally reduced for everyone equally, with French still at an advantage. Nothing changes in terms of balance, just everyone will take a little more time training on TB.

The problem is with the blessing + french reduced training time it gave them a faster build time thus more attacking then other players so it was heavily abused as you could see by the leaderboard.

Even so as you said it hits everyone and french will still have the bonus as it will just slow things down a bit although the raider nerf will make me sad a bit as they are always fun for a quick raid for resources.
 

MadFury

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Op cav buff lasted less than a month. And everyone had op cav. It was nothing compared to the op fusiliers which last for months. Now that we're clear.
 

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I'm not here to ask for the option of the USA Elite alliance. You can all come complain here together. However I doubt any of you started playing as the French, just switch to them like everyone else and never went through that pain in the *** growth stages you have to go through as the French. I don't know when 20% faster training speed became 'traning half as fast' like some of these imbeciles were claiming. This post won't last long before it gets deleted and I get banned again. But at least we know who the rest of us can blame. As for perspective here's some, the French are the only nation with no offensive or economic bonuses what so ever. They have the only unique which gets more expensive in terms of train time, troop space and resources. And that 20% (which used to be 15% before we got a much needed buff) hardly made up for all the negatives. In particular for the rest of us who don't spend all day playing.

First off all nations are better at certain ages then others so complaining about the growing stages is pointless if you find the earlier ages harder for them then others if that's what you were referring to.

As for the only nation with no offensive or economic bonus clearly you don't think 20% faster rebuild time is a offensive bonus as it certainly isn't a defensive one not to mention the extra units you can get from your alliance. ;)
 

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And that was my point exactly. In trying to get France nerfed they succeeded in getting the training blessing nerfed again. That 20% additional isn't the massive advantage these guys were making it out to be. It was after all for those who aren't mathematically inclined only 20% faster. Only 1 additional attack for every 5 any other nation made.
 

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Well japan rome and germany kinda suffering for longer now with nerfed soldiers to the ground. majority dosen't even use them in IA or 10-15 while I am still sniping with buffed tanks. France was OP for 4 months, so you've got your extra 200m of gold and better walls. Be happy ;)
 

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Well, I didn't expect they will hit hard on all of the three at once: france, TB and raiders. tB they should just buff on factory and leave as it is.
 

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Clearly you and I have very different opinions on what OP is. Over Powered means just that to me, some thing that is nearly unstoppable in comparison to others. An extra attack every 5 attacks is anything but over powering to me.
 

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I'll concede that the extra alliance troops are an offensive bonus, which was added to compensate for the fact that the French indeed do not have one. With that said its not something I see anyone ready to spend 1000 crowns for. An extra 6 troops every 20 min isn't much of a help. And no I don't think that 20% is an offensive bonus. It doesn't help me take out stronger bases or make my army feel superior to the other nations.
 

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lol, i wish it was me that convinced them to change the way they calculated the French bonus with the TB, but i couldn't have done it without you and all your vehement opposition to making that adjustment. so a good round of applause for yourself.

i still can't figure out why you claim that French have no good bonus, because they do have the best HC/tanks in the game, and the 3 extra alliance troops is pretty nice (definitely better than the Greeks). and until this change happens they still get loot at twice the speed of other nations.

I'd also like to point out that not one person in any thread ever asked for a nerf of the TB, everyone was just asking that they included the factory and air units.

Anyway, have fun in whatever game you decide to play now, since you no longer have a super power nation that you got used to.
 
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