British vs French as a hardcore early Industrial

[Persia]

Hi all, again seeking to pick some brains as this forum has helped me in the past.

I'm wondering if it might be worth switching to French, for the time being. British and Koreans have both served me well, more so British, but I'm wondering if it might be time to change to French to fit my playing style. I like doing nonstop attacks, hammering rushed/weak EA and IA bases. My recent battles are a mix of 4/5 stars and medal dropping, and I can usually get at least 20mil in resources per day.

I'll give you an idea of where I'm at right now - it's pretty bad, but that's the point of me raiding as often as I can to ameliorate my bad defences and offence.

I'm upgrading the airstrip, one barracks, creating the first bunker (second is unlocked but I don't have any citizens), and upgrading the mercenary camp, all to IA level. I'm also sitting on 105,107 oil at the moment, which'll be maxed for sure by the time the earliest upgrade I have to finish (bunker, 2d1h) will be done, meaning I'll start on the fort then and later the factory upgrade.

I have maxed EA defences, along with the 4th catapult to EA level, and my walls are all level 10. I upgraded them all from 9 to 10 within the past 11 days, meaning an average of 21,540,000 gold/food per day. That's not counting the expensive upgrades I did over that time period, so it's probably over 30mil daily looted with training blessings and whatnot, which are criminally easy to get at low medals.

Picture of my base so this doesn't get too long: https://i.imgur.com/MGCX42W.jpg

I want to get a significant portion of my walls up to level 11, and going French would be the best way to do that. I also get much more troop space in the alliance gate, meaning that I can get 2 APCs or even more howies from my alliance mates (both of which I love using). But the Brit rifles are the best UU in the game, and I'm not sure how to integrate French tanks into the army (since I'll have to use them in the absence of the powerful shooters), even though I do know that their tanks are pretty good and would defeinitely be no harm to include.

With the rubbish AI in this game, I really don't want to have to waste time retraining troops, but I have to far too often. I have no problem spending the $10 to revolution to French. Is it worth doing? Or should I just tough it out and grind harder?

I just lost 3 medics to a rogue horseman with 1/12 of his HP left who wasn't getting shot by my shooters no matter what I did. Funny, well actually not that funny, as I now have to waste 10 minutes of a training blessing for something that isn't even my fault, on a base that I have double the XP.

By the way - that's an artillery upgrade and a supply truck upgrade in the armoury. Biplane Mk3 and Tank are next.

 

[Mcnasty]

Why would switching to French help?

 

[Exiliado]

The last time I did something similar was Summer of the Ages, upgrading 90% of my walls to lvl 10 and 80% to lvl 11 in one week. It was a bit mad and I vowed “never again”. The key for me was aggressive medal dropping (as close to 200 as possible and never above 400) and targeting “tactically insignificant” bases with an army of 9 heavy cavalry, 9 assault infantry, 26 shooters and 2 raiders for clean up. No supply carts and no ranged siege. So scant retraining time regardless. All attacks back to back, with or without the full compliment. I haven’t tried it lately so I can’t say whether it would work for you but you might give it a go. If it works you wouldn’t need a nation swap.

 

[Persia]

Retrain times. I usually have a training blessing up when I'm doing some serious raiding anyway, it'd just compound it to a degree where I'd actually be able to attack a decent time after losing a cannon or healer (which is more than often when the AI screws the pooch for me; you know, the craziness walking straight into defences, etc.)

 

[Persia]

9 x 6 = 54
9 x 1 = 9
26 x 1 = 26
2 x 3 = 6
Did you misspeak? That's only 95 troops, I have 125 slots and soon to be 130.

Although, I never realised you could pack in that many HCs into such a small army. Did you deploy them from different spots, or do a single attacking force?

 

[Exiliado]

No that is accurate. It was an early *Enlightenment* army playing as Greek. I am venturing a guess that at very low medal counts against very easy bases it may still work.

Since you are British, with more troop space I would recommend fielding more HC’s to take down defenses. The shooters keep defenders off the HC’s back and begin to collect rss while the assault provide extra coverage to the shooters, and all are deployed together. Then in the 2nd half I would send in the raiders to mop up. I would end the battle immediately once all defenses and rss were cleared to save precious seconds.

Edit: I just tried it and it does still work in IA. Lots of really easy bases and good resources down there.

 

[True God]

No that is accurate. It was an early *Enlightenment* army playing as Greek. I am venturing a guess that at very low medal counts against very easy bases it may still work.

Since you are British, with more troop space I would recommend fielding more HC’s to take down defenses. The shooters keep defenders off the HC’s back and begin to collect rss while the assault provide extra coverage to the shooters, and all are deployed together. Then in the 2nd half I would send in the raiders to mop up. I would end the battle immediately once all defenses and rss were cleared to save precious seconds.

Edit: I just tried it and it does still work in IA. Lots of really easy bases and good resources down there.

Oil is my resource to raid for now. Roman 154 space. Max walls means overflowing with food and gold. It's all about oil baby.

 

[Exiliado]

OP was talking about walls, specifically changing to French to get walls to lvl 11 rapidly. It’s not an ordinary strategic proposition. But yeah, to be clear, this is not a strategy for oil.

 

[Persia]

I probably need to be able to raid as fast as possible for anything else too. French with a blessing lets me do that.

 

[Manifesto]

If you can afford it with the crowns, I say go ahead, because the French are one of the best nations if you like raiding a lot and hammering rushed bases, especially with their tanks.
Speculation and advice from others is always helpful but there's no substitute for 'experience'.

 

[_Flash_]

I would really suggest sticking with the British, and not doing a revolution to the French at the moment.
This is coming from someone who started out as the French and stayed French all the way till AA on my first base, and switched to the British about midway in AA.

While the retraining times might be longer with the British compared to the French, the extra 15% loot from each attack more than makes up for the slightly extra retraining times. In summary, you might be doing more attacks per hour with the French, while you might make more loot per attack with the British with fewer attacks per hour.
This becomes really significant when you are gathering oil for the upgrades. Fewer attacks per hour, with each attack yielding more oil per attack is better than more attacks per hour, with each attack yielding less oil per attack.

So, I would really suggest staying with the British, if you're already playing as the British.

Hope this helps!
Cheers and happy gaming!

 

[arcelalmelor]

Go GERMAN! get 4 heavy tanks. choose rushed base to EA/IA/GA with weak air defense(anti air and towers). kill anti tank with 2 planes. enjoy raiding without no loses.

 

[Mcnasty]

You don’t have to be German to clean up the base type you described

 

[arcelalmelor]

well you are right sir. you can also be a japanese or korean. But the reason why I am voting for Germans, is because it can save you approx 30 secs each battle because of the fury bonus. 30s to go back to real life.