Change the medal system

Aardvark

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Medal system will be fixed when close app doesnt work. Right now theres nothing stopping the player base from shooting straight to 7k medals if they changed medal systwm. When u cant lose medals on attack they look for ways to get those medals back


good point, if they fix the close app problem the medal system would be more balanced
 

Hunter Killer

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Ok so this may be the last straw for me. Today I got attacked, lost 38 medals BUT didn't even get a peace treaty! So I got attacked multiple times after that and lost more medals. I am reporting this bug/hack to customer support and others in my alliance have had the same issue as well but can't be bothered because they don't trust customer support will do anything.

I'll give them a chance to fix this and give me back my lost medals. I don't even care about crown compensation, I have 1700 of them with nothing to do with them. So that's really the last attempt for me on playing with medals. The system is broken and dominations will turn into farmville if this continues.

Yes if they can fix the close app trick, this will help. I usually connect to see my traps open and no defense log. If they fix the close app trick, you could at least earn some medals back in defense even if you lose some with defeats sometimes. It would even out.

One final thing, am I one of the few legit players who actually log off when they sleep or go to work? I assume that if I can never get a battle worth more than 1 medal, it's because all the top players are online all the time. I try to revenge when I get attacked by a top player to potentially earn a lot of medals. But they are always online all the time, any time of the day, not in peace treaty, online!

I know people who have emulators of this game on pc that moves the mouse and click somewhere from time to time to keep the app running. Is this how people avoid losing medals on defense? I don't see how else you can get to 3600 medals, knowing that there are really no opponents to be found after empire league and the top players never seem to lose any medals, unless they drop on purpose.
 

Redgar

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Yea, I've lost 32 medals today from a single attack... It's 1 hour of play to only get it back and if I want to make a progress I need to spend more than two hours a day what I can't afford, quite demotivating. This is what they need to talk about, not these quests.

How to make combat more fun and fix medals system.

Will we get any feedback from devs on this issue? Did our forum mods deliver it to devs as a top requests from community besides cheaters?
 

Endril

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The climb below 2000 medals isn't too bad. However once above 2000 its very different. I agree that their has to be a better mechanic and also players that 5 star a base should get more medals. I think the minimum win should be 5 medals. Hence a player will get 1 medal for each star, this will motivate players to get 4-5 stars.

Also as the other players have noted it is very rare to find a high medal win so the majority of the time it is 1 medal. Then in defence losing 16 or more which takes about 2-3 hours of play assuming you have enough trade goods for the training blessing. By changing the amount won this could decrease the time needed and also promote other tactics other than lots of raider attacks

Even with the training blessing it takes about 10-12 minutes to rebuild an army with canons and supply etc. So at most players can get 3 attacks out of a training blessing.

Endril
 

Redgar

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We have a real consensus on medals system improvements and mods should put it on the discussion topic, not stupid quests.

5-starring should be rewarded properly (5 guaranteed medals) vs sniping, medal losses are too high, close app should be fixed or traps should be auto-recharded at least or recharge blessing, log out peace treaty, so you have 10 mins without attacks when you can make a tea :). This IS important.
 

Eddie F1

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There is already a 2 minute PT when the warning box pops up 'Are you still there?' - just needs extending to 10 minutes.

But there is a flaw in the overall game design where it is possible to stay logged in 24/7 - this is off the top of my head, but something like Battle Fatigue for army and Worker Efficiency should drop off a cliff after a period of time, say 3 hours. That way cheaters and pay-2-play don't get the colossal advantage they currently have over our benchmark player, dbukalski. :)
 

Eddie F1

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The climb below 2000 medals isn't too bad.

That fills me with enthusiasm!

Currently at 1800, playing British - all I see is 1 medal bases, it's taken ages to claw my way up to this point, and just now lost 29 medals.

Along with the huge disparity between win/lose medals, the entire League system sucks, the rewards for say Gold 1 are so pitiful everyone just keeps climbing and these 'Quit Zones' appear, you can't stay low forever, no rewards for climbing and being near the top doesn't seem a bundle of fun either.
 

dbukalski

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Being at the top is fine. At 2800 medals ull make a nice 100k per battle form league rewards with plenty of players to pick from. U can go to 3000 to get 150k per battle then hover around 2950 while keeping ur 150k league bonus and still have reasonable opponents per blessing.
 

Cannibals

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It feels like medal totals have more to do with how many hours you can play than with anything else. My available playtime has me capped at around 3000 medals :/
 

Bodack Scythe

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I've been bringing this up over and over and over again. Since they introduced the Algorithm, nearly all I see are 1 -39, 1 -39, 1 -39, 1 -39, 1 -39 matchups. Hundreds in a row of them. I'm not a cheat, so I only have a level 114 base, with modest defenses. Yet after hours of these 1- 39 matchups against players at my level or higher, I then get attacked by players level 150-200 for -14, -25, -27, -38, -21, -22 etc. It's completely unfair and demoralizing. Particularly when considering a lot of these players taking MASS medals from me have obvious cheat accounts. This has forced many many players I've known or were in my Alliance, to leave the game entirely. I mean what's the point right? That effort using the algorithm, which favors, encourages and fosters cheaters has been a disaster to the game. Because it favors cheaters so heavily and there is ZERO policing for hackers/cheaters being done, it has encouraged and emboldened the cheaters. I see more and more, not less and less. Yet Nexon just allows cheaters to own their game. They haven't done anything to combat it or deter it, they only encourage it. Until that is fixed Nexon will have to survive on the new players who don't know any better for income. Because once you get up past about level 70, it becomes obvious that the game is rampant with cheaters, scores of them. I honestly see more cheat accounts than I do legit ones anymore. It's crazy!!!! Nexon/BHG could care less!
 

Bodack Scythe

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I've been attacked back to back about 15 times since April. I've reported this each time. Nexon has literally done nothing at all about this. They don't give back your medals. THEY'VE NEVER RETURNED ANY OF MY MEDALS FROM CRAP LIKE THAT. Hopefully they treat you better than me, but don't count on it.

Just wait until you start losing -22 medals for 1 star attacks. You can watch the replay, obvious 1 star attack, yet you lose -20 medals!!!

I could go on and on with all of these types of issues. Nexon never fixes any of them. Not once have they fixed any of these. My entire alliance gets attacked back to back without peace treaties. Nexon just keeps asking for my patience!!! Patience!!!! Since April!!!!! That's not patience!!!! That's crazy!!!
 

Eddie F1

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I see the same thing, next after next of 1-39 or 2-37.

Just clawed my way into Gold 1, technically back in Gold 2 because the last two attacks took 36 medals between them, so who the hell am I constantly matched with - I am the bottom rung of the ladder, everyone has more medals than me in this League range, who are these people that get the chance to win 29 medals?

I am just into IA at Lvl116 playing British - the matchmaking/medal/league system is a farcical ( just to add another adjective to describe this game, along with demoralising, tedious)
 
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