Cold War Age Barracks Expertise Damage and Hitpoints missing

Vince

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Just wondering if other players are facing this issue, everyone in my alliance seems to.

My troops don't get the entire expertise damage and hitpoints that should come with an upgrade of my barracks from lvl 9 to 10.

My field howitzers are the best example (also I was too lazy to do the math for all the other troops): My FH had 1127 damage (with Leonardo research in uni and library stuff completed). So they're basically maxed out for the atomic age. I recently upgraded to the cold war age. I haven't done the research for heavy artillery yet but upgraded two of my barracks. Theoretically, I should gain 122 expertise damage (+61 for each barracks). However, now my field howitzer have 1172 damage (so only an additional 45 instead of 122). I contacted the support and they said they'll investigate but can't disclose any details because this is an isolated case.

So I was just wondering, anyone else having this problem? My whole alliance seems to (at least the players I talked to).
 

Manifesto

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I have the same situation as you: 2 barracks and all uni/library upgrades done.
My howies have 1240 dps so it seems there's something wrong with yours. Good luck with CS.
 

Vince

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Manifesto, somehow your number is off as well. Maybe not by as much as it is for me but you're still missing 9 damage. If you have your field howitzer maxed out at uni and library it should have 1127. If you add the expertise damage of 2 barracks you should have 1249 (1127 + 2x61).

It looks to me like you have heavy artillery with two barracks (1127 (field howitzer) + 68 (heavy arti upgrade) + 45 (2 "bad" barracks just like me).

So it seems everyone has this problem. I contacted support. They told me I am an isolated case. Would be nice to hear something from Tinsoldier or anyone else who knows more what's going on with this.
 

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Manifesto, somehow your number is off as well. Maybe not by as much as it is for me but you're still missing 9 damage. If you have your field howitzer maxed out at uni and library it should have 1127. If you add the expertise damage of 2 barracks you should have 1249 (1127 + 2x61).

It looks to me like you have heavy artillery with two barracks (1127 (field howitzer) + 68 (heavy arti upgrade) + 45 (2 "bad" barracks just like me).

So it seems everyone has this problem. I contacted support. They told me I am an isolated case. Would be nice to hear something from Tinsoldier or anyone else who knows more what's going on with this.
Yes, after my reply I double checked my stats and saw that they're off as well. My artillery is upgraded and that bonus seems to have been applied but it seems approx 10% of the barracks bonus has been applied instead of 100%.
CS replied they will look into it, forward to the relevant department, appreciate my patience and understanding, etc.
Not so isolated anymore.
 

Manifesto

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Just bumping this up for us CWA players who haven't yet received a satisfactory answer, either in-game or otherwise. TinSoldier Nb4powerup , any news?
Out of curiosity, any CWA players with the correct stats?

PS: I can just hear all the ''boo hoo, your CWA army isn't as powerful as you'd like'' comments from other players. Fair enuff I suppose! :D
 

Vince

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I finished developing my heavy artillery. Now I have library and uni max, all three barracks, and the research in the armory is finished. My total heavy artillery damage is 1263. It should be 1378. I am missing more than 100 damage. I wonder why Nexon does not respond. Either change the barracks so they show less expertise damage for the HA or give them more damage so that everything corresponds. Considering the difficulty I recently have with getting 5 stars on maxed out deff bases that have 3 deff coalitions I'd prefer the latter ;-)
 

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howitzers do have a slower rate of fire.
that means dps will be lower than damage.
infantry and riflemen have a high rate of fire so their numbers wouldnt suffer
 

pckrn

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in the barracks upgrade screen it says “damage”
in the unit info screen it says “dps”

if this problem is affecting everyone, and only affecting howies and not riflemen etc, i’d say the rate of fire is the reason.

a 10 damage boost on a unit that fires every second is a 10 dps boost, and a 30 damage boost on a unit that fires once every 3 sec is also a 10 dps boost.
 

Manifesto

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I get your point and it's a valid point given we've received a third of the overall expected increase.
But since the artillery only has DPS in it's stats, the barracks showing 'damage' is misleading advertising. Nexon should give us the damage stated in the barracks but I suspect all they'll do is apologise and say what you're saying.
Then again, we might actually have the intended damage while the stats only show a third. When the artillery fires every 3 secs, it actually fires with 3 times the added dps shown in the stats.
 
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/Radzeer entering mods mode/

1127 dps is the maxed AA field howitzer
1195 dps is the maxed CWA heavy artillery without cwa expertise

Concerning cwa barrack expertise for the artillery:
although the explanation says +183 damage it should be put in context with the fact that it shoots every 2.7 seconds (with ballistics ch5), so 183 should be divided by 2.7 to get the damage per second.
Each Barrack upgrade will bring 183/3 =61 damage, so 61/2.7=22.6 dps


You can verify:
fh dps with one barrack expertise done (+61 damage) is 1127 + 61/2.7=1150 dps
fh dps with 2 barrack expertise done (+122 damage) is 1127 + 122/2.7=1172 dps (Vince's value)
etc.
by this calculation maxed heavy artillery with all 3 barrack upgrades has 1195+183/2.7 =1263 (my value :))
 

Manifesto

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I fear you might be right. I have all 3 barracks done with CWA upgrade and that's my dps. Makes sense if you calculate a 3sec fire rate.
Would be nice if people at Nexon knew and could confirm.
 
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