CWA barracks bonus is a big lie

[Motaz Tarek]

i noticed that the usual bonus stats we get per age for each troop in blacksmith upgrades is now split between blacksmith upgrades and barracks upgrades

for example british rifles gain only + 4 dmg in armory upgrade and +9 dmg per barrack upgrade (idk if it stacks) so thats 4+9x3= 31 extra dmg in CWA, fact is we used even to get much more from blacksmith upgrade in Atomic age and lower ages as well

so nexon simply decided they don't want a further troop space increase but instead of skipping CWA barracks upgrade (as they did in global age) they decided to split the bonus stats we get from blacksmith upgrade and let barracks upgrades share in it

adding more resource,time and worker cost to what we used to get only by upgrading our troops in blacksmith

i noticed the same for field howitzers too, look closely u will notice that troop upgrades in CWA inside blacksmith gives much lower bonus than they used to in previous ages and that's cuz the rest of the bonus requires u to upgrade barracks as well

 

[SiuYin]

and you should also notice that troops buffed 15％while defense buffed 20％,.net net offense is nerfed another 5％

 

[Motaz Tarek]

yep I noticed that too, CWA is going to increase the struggle against max bases, eventually leading to more p2w dominance
but what irritates me more is they decided to cost us much more time and workers to get the full bonus of our troops, that's really a cheap move

 

[JMoney]

I've actually been one to advocate before that scaling the damage up instead of upping the unit count would be a better option. More so because having +15 more units just means even more units running all over the screen meaning even more FPS drops on weaker phones.

 

[Motaz Tarek]

if they don't want more troop increase should have skipped barracks upgrades as they did in global age not force us to upgrade it to get our full bonus that we used to get from blacksmith

 

[Motaz Tarek]

they didn't scale anything up, the total increase we get from barracks up and blacksmith is still within the normal or even less increase in stats that we get every age, the difference is now u have to put 5 worker for X days in each barrack along with the blacksmith researches to get it

 

[SiuYin]

I am more concern about the continue buff of defense.
I hate to use 4 troop cards each war

 

[Motaz Tarek]

SiuYin keep in mind ur troops gets automatic nerf whenever traps accquire new lvl, caltrops (barbed wires) are getting very strong and without a troop deactivating traps u will have to use not just normal cards but overpowered ones like elephant archers, pathfinders, bazooka cards which are offered only for cash

 

[SiuYin]

excatly. Now It is almost imposible to 5 star a maxed war base without troop card.
Which means 155 troops size is not match currently war strength. and we are forced to use Troop card.
It is not fun at all

 

[Manifesto]

So if we Atomics just stay where we are we won't be worse off, Motaz Tarek ?
The argument to stay is getting stronger for me but those new troops do look good!

 

[SiuYin]

So if we Atomics just stay where we are we won't be worse off, Motaz Tarek ?
The argument to stay is getting stronger for me but those new troops do look good!

With 15% buffed attack from CWA, you will be teared down like a paper

 

[Manifesto]

Really, you think 15% makes that much difference? Well, I can live with that.
With my defenses 95% maxed and level 15 walls and experience, it's hard enough for anyone to 2-3* me without mercs, generals and 4 troop cards, it's even rarer that anyone gets 4 or 5 stars!
I can live with the occassional attack from a CW army. In fact, I welcome the opportunity to test myself after all these months. That's the nature of Dominations after all: let them try!
I'll still be able to attack AA and rushed Globals, even rushed Colders !

 

[Motaz Tarek]

staying in premax age depends on ur condition
for me I can't simply cuz i am a major attacker in my alliance, inspite being 70% GA in my defenses, i maxed my AA attack capabilities and now performing in attack just as a lvl 260+ would do

that's my strategy to enjoy the game without waiting much time for upgrades, if one day i get my defenses max i can have the versitality of being attacker or defender

because of that u will find almost all my posts upset about the increasing defense buff, basically defense buff serves only those who could make it to the max, their bases become hardcore, serves nothing to hardworking players who got moderate defenses cuz they will be piece of a cake anyway, and ruins my fun of attacking in game specially that I can't keep constant supply of elephant archers and other strong cards offered for cash

 

[SiuYin]

Not really. you will find 15% make difference. In world war, you could find that most high end war either completed in 2 min or fail.
The difference come from whether you can kill defender fast enough.

But you are true in someone, unless you are in high medal, people will choose easier base and skip your one

 

[Manifesto]

Motaz Tarek , I was referring to attacks that I'm currently doing against Global or AA accounts. I think these changes are only for CW accounts?
Anyway, I'm sorry if my lvl 15 walls loses you a star or 2!
Curently I'm enjoying letting others attack me for my resources or a quick TC snipe. It's very relaxing.

 

[Motaz Tarek]

Manifesto since the silo i rarely get serious attacks on my base, maybe just once by a player in dynasty league who use tremendous force that even worth more than the loot in my base, he even used 4 premium troop cards in a multiplayer battle

otherwise mostly tc snipes or failed oil snipes, if not for ghost bases and rushed AA players multiplayer mode would have been completely dead

 

[yemen]

I wonder if the bonus from the barracks will be one of those things that doesn't transfer to donated troops (like library and university research). That would be one way to limit the ability of lower ages to fully share in CW boosts.

That would give the CW players another advantage over atomic players, and combining it with the 220 level requirement would give long time / rich players would make that advantage persistent.

 

[Motaz Tarek]

similar library researches that has the description of barrack troops proved to work on donated troops as well, still have to wait and see

but the donated CWA troops to lower ages will be a weaker version of CWA troops cuz they don't have barracks bonus that CWA players have cuz they aquire their bonus stats from the reciever not the donator

and by saying weaker, i mean much weaker cuz over 50-75% of the CWA stats come from barracks not blacksmith

 

[pckrn]

about defense being buffed greater than defense, hasnt it always been true every age?

ie when you go from GA to AA you get not only new levels of defensive building but also a completely new stable, 3 different towers, 10 wall segments, and a few traps.

AA to CWA you dont get anything new to place, which means each existing building gets buffed more.

 

[Manifesto]

Just checking some Global buildings, if I upgrade to AA the building HP increases by 8-12%. Compare that to the 20-25% increase going to CW.
What does that tell you?
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