Dear Nexon:

duradrinx

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I am only taking time out of my day to write this because this game had/has some amazing potential. I am not trying to bash but to give some constructive criticism.

Yesterday's update pretty much made this game dead to me. I have put some good money into this game and have put up with virtually no support for months. I have been hoping that things would improve, but they have not. They continue to get worse. Here we have an update with more content which is great, but where are your priorities when there so many game ending bugs? I am listing issues I have with yesterday's update, hoping that something will change.

1. Heavy infantry. Not only are they more expensive, but the range was nerfed. I can only assume this occurred because people whined about Romans. Now they are just expensive cannon fodder. Maybe their damage should have been reduced a little. But this is now a game breaker.

2. Rally. I am not sure what thought process or testing was even put into this. It is not improved, but now causes troops to act like kamakazes. Rally used to be a great tool to steer troops into a general direction. Now if you use Rally and pick a location that is behind any type of building they completely ignore them and go straight to that point, your troops just get picked off. Before the change my troops at least fought their way to the way point. I guess rally is now regulated to a role of grouping your troops off to the side of the map.

3. Troop AI. Troops are now UNINTELLIGENT. I have yet to see any troops work together on a single wall. Troops have no sense of survival any longer. They do not take smarter routes as you stated.

Since the update I have been trying for hours to come up with new attack strategies. It is useless. I am now losing 3x's as many troops in almost all fights. I have been wiped out trying to attack players 30 levels below me.

My last attack which totally surprised me and led me to write this was a joke. I am level 115, the defender was level 80 and had all his walls stacked to the side of the map. I destroyed less than 50% of his buildings before all my troops were dead.

I don't want to have it easy, I also don't see any reason for the extreme change.

I always kept crowns in the past for troop building. I didn't mind spending 10 crowns or so to restore troops after each battle if I was on a run. But that has tripled now. I can not and will not spend crowns like that. So now I am regulated to waiting 15-45 minutes between attacks and getting resources stolen all day long.

If your thought process was to get people such as myself to spend more on crowns to keep fighting you've made a grave mistake. Now I complete one battle and shut off the game while my troops regenerate. This does not keep me interested in your game, it's boring.
 

Funken_A

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My game has not been updated yet, but I see many of these issues now. Don't know how some are getting an update and some are not

Rally is broken, not all troops respond and most troops abandon objective if behind a wall and wall is broken through, Heavy Knight Nerf is excessive, troop AI is extremely pathetic when it comes to walls all choosing a different wall.

I too have struggled against lesser opponents lately. Its not a game breaker but all it does is make me want to drop more trophies. I like keeping my troops, so I can attack more often. I DO NOT USE CROWNS for troop builds as I find that to be a colossal waste of resources. BUT I find the loot at Copper 2 is comparable to loot I can get at Silver 3. The BIGGEST FISH in Silver 3 are out of my league. I could never get the resources so its a waste of time to stay in Silver 3 for me. I am a 90% maxed Medieval Player. I don't feel I shoudl be sitting at Copper 2 and Copper 1 but the game dictates that that is in my best interest.

I think crowns should give you a timed boost on your barracks. Spend crowns on a 2 hour boost and produce 4x's to 5x's as many armies in that period. I would spend some crowns if that was an option
 

Storm Wind

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like you, i raid 3 battle after update and i surprised stupid troops, broken rally, crash battle and many bugs.
turn off game immediately after this bug update, waiting for fix or leave this game.
 

Zloca

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Thanks for the info, I'm just not going to update my game at all :)

3. Troop AI. Troops are now UNINTELLIGENT. I have yet to see any troops work together on a single wall. Troops have no sense of survival any longer. They do not take smarter routes as you stated.

Do you honestly think troops had any sort of AI before the update?? My troops have always gone together to a wall only to split there and hit 4 different pillars at the same time. This game is a super dumbed down strategy built to impress people who've never played a computer strategy in their life. PC games from 1991 had significantly better AI. But this is on mobile and people will pay obscene amounts of money so they don't have to wait for an upgrade to finish that long, so they can start another upgrade that takes even longer and so on.
 

Redgar

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Yes and lonely archers still stuck to the walls they can't even deal with till the end of the battle while there are buildings near by. It might take time to get used to new AI, but I don't see any deep thought behind these changes so far except giving you more losses, so you pay more for army recovery.
 

Funken_A

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Yes and lonely archers still stuck to the walls they can't even deal with till the end of the battle while there are buildings near by. It might take time to get used to new AI, but I don't see any deep thought behind these changes so far except giving you more losses, so you pay more for army recovery.


the thing is who is going to pay for more armies. I'll just find a different game if this is the direction. I'm willing to spend 10 crowns for a 2 hour boost of a barrack that allows me to attack 4 to 5 x's as much in that 2 hour period but I'm never going to spend 10 crowns to finish a single army.

I spend crowns on my library and blacksmith when i start a new age, and I will use crowns to finish an upgrade if I have to much in resources siting around, but I will never crown an army
 

bhoywonder

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This game is redundant until fixed..

who tests this?

presumably nobody

nexon u killed it
 

Redgar

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For me, army recovery increased twice on similar opponents. Defensive horsemen spam like hell making bombards almost useless. My horsemen will always find the worst possible way and die twice faster. Troops also act like they in the park and not on the battle field, while archers still stuck. Battle tactics destroyed completely with this update and you just have to sacrafice all army or pay for OP blessings and recovery.
 

ntzhoushiwei

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I seriously doubt if this update have been fully tested before release because it has so many problems. The AI is completely a mess that the troops just wander around base without doing their jobs. I almost lost an entire army to a simple square Medieval base. Infantry is now such a dumb and they even increase the cost of its upgrade. Nexon, please rollback the update and hire some more professional developers to fully test it.
 

Empire

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I am only taking time out of my day to write this because this game had/has some amazing potential. I am not trying to bash but to give some constructive criticism.

Yesterday's update pretty much made this game dead to me. I have put some good money into this game and have put up with virtually no support for months. I have been hoping that things would improve, but they have not. They continue to get worse. Here we have an update with more content which is great, but where are your priorities when there so many game ending bugs? I am listing issues I have with yesterday's update, hoping that something will change.

1. Heavy infantry. Not only are they more expensive, but the range was nerfed. I can only assume this occurred because people whined about Romans. Now they are just expensive cannon fodder. Maybe their damage should have been reduced a little. But this is now a game breaker.

2. Rally. I am not sure what thought process or testing was even put into this. It is not improved, but now causes troops to act like kamakazes. Rally used to be a great tool to steer troops into a general direction. Now if you use Rally and pick a location that is behind any type of building they completely ignore them and go straight to that point, your troops just get picked off. Before the change my troops at least fought their way to the way point. I guess rally is now regulated to a role of grouping your troops off to the side of the map.

3. Troop AI. Troops are now UNINTELLIGENT. I have yet to see any troops work together on a single wall. Troops have no sense of survival any longer. They do not take smarter routes as you stated.

Since the update I have been trying for hours to come up with new attack strategies. It is useless. I am now losing 3x's as many troops in almost all fights. I have been wiped out trying to attack players 30 levels below me.

My last attack which totally surprised me and led me to write this was a joke. I am level 115, the defender was level 80 and had all his walls stacked to the side of the map. I destroyed less than 50% of his buildings before all my troops were dead.

I don't want to have it easy, I also don't see any reason for the extreme change.

I always kept crowns in the past for troop building. I didn't mind spending 10 crowns or so to restore troops after each battle if I was on a run. But that has tripled now. I can not and will not spend crowns like that. So now I am regulated to waiting 15-45 minutes between attacks and getting resources stolen all day long.

If your thought process was to get people such as myself to spend more on crowns to keep fighting you've made a grave mistake. Now I complete one battle and shut off the game while my troops regenerate. This does not keep me interested in your game, it's boring.


Dumb question, but still asking as I'm clueless and I'm seeing this word used in many places: What is AI? Thanks!
 

Bones64

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AI stands for artificial intelligence, which is the system that is in charge for basically "commanding" the troops to attack certain things. For example, the ai for infantry is suppose to prioritize the closest object and find the most efficient path towards said object. Likewise, ai for horsemen is suppose to prioritize the closest defensive building as well as find the most efficient path. As a result of the update, the ai that deals with finding the most efficient path is broken, for some reason it doesn't take in consideration broken walls when computing the most efficient path anymore.

Basically, AI deals with the behavior of troops when it comes to battle, prioritizing certain buildings/threats based on the unit and finding the most efficient route. Hoped this helped :D
 

sjb

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And the most artificial of all intelligence is displayed when a company allows a great game to be hacked to death. :D
 

VN-ELITE

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so long to read, you have so much heart and brain in to this. Good job! hope the Dev team will read it soon !@
 
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