Dock level reset option

[Cryos]

TinSoldier

I recently checked the wiki and I found out that more tools for the museum are available at lower dock levels. This is unfair to people who were already in the atomic age with an upgraded dock when the museum debuted which means were deprived of tools or means to acquire them.

I'm going to make a simple request: give all current players the option to reset their dock to level 1 and upgraded manually again so they can have access to be full range of new options. It is important that you do not force this simply give the option on the dock screen or with the little helper guy to pop up and say "would you like to reset your dock to gain access to Old Museum deliveries."

This would be very much appreciated and a way to help ease the complaints of "not enough ways to get tools" from higher aged players. I don't know how easy this will be to implement, what with leveling but that should be easy to subtract the exp, but please consider it.

 

[yemen]

Alternatively, rebalance the availability of supplies vs researchers and benefactors from every source. Or completely get rid of the second two, so we don't have so many things to balance. Or a way to trade, so those who have too many of the second set can turn them into the first. Lots of ways to make this better, no need for something as dramatic as getting rid of existing progress in the form of downgrading your dock and getting back the junky armies available at lower levels.

 

[Cryos]

Yeah but I'm being realistic with what is more likely to be done. I'd rather reset my dock to see the old levels of dock stuff. starting a new account isn't an option because then I couldn't get the legendary artifact I already bought.

 

[oddin]

i'm sorry but what do you mean by tools? What past level docks have that we don't have in Atomic++?

 

[yemen]

I think resetting the dock is far less likely than readjusting the missions or rebalancing the resources. Every time they introduce something new to this game, they eventually have to rebalance it a bit, so that is normal. Starting a building over from scratch is far less likely.

 

[pckrn]

supplies.

supplies to worker time ratio may be best at level 9 dock, but amount of supplies is best at level 7 dock

 

[Manifesto]

It's crazy that everything scales up in this game: time, cost of upgrading, troop improvements; yet the museum rewards at the dock scales backwards.
Just crazy.

 

[oddin]

ok thanks for the clarification. Didn't know that and certainly Cryos is right! The higher the dock level, the worst items you get? This is indeed wrong

 

[yemen]

The question is, how many workers are you willing to tie up at your dock, and for how long?

The supplies per worker*day at the level 9 atomic dock are higher than anything from a lower level dock. Both 6 hour expeditions have them (34&51 respectively), and those are the ones I am actually most likely to use workers on. In addition, the other rewards are better than the junky armies at lower level docks.

A level 6 dock has 4 possible expeditions with supplies, but the 6 hour ones have a lot less (10&15) and the ones with more (85 & 128), are 4 worker two day expeditions. And there are only 2 expedition slots, so you can't take full advantage even if you are willing to spend the workers. Not sure you can come out ahead of 9 at this level, just because of limited slots.

At level 7, your 6 hour expeditions provide 15&23, and you still have the 2 day 128, and you have three slots so they are more likely to come up. So you can get more than at level 9 potentially, at a greater worker time cost. Not close to worth the trade off for me, especially given all the other rewards at those levels are less valuable.

As I said before, I would like to see the whole museum rebalanced, and the benefactors / researchers removed entirely. Just my take that rolling back the dock to lower levels would be a negative, not a positive.

 

[Ulysses]

Thanks for posting, Cryos. It's a good observation.

Here's the link to the wiki so folks can check out the current rewards for Dock at different levels → http://dominations.wikia.com/wiki/Shipyard

Yup, I'd have to agree with you and Manifesto that it's, ahem, 'counterintuitive' that higher dock levels pay out lower Museum supplies (level 6 dock, 48hr expedition to La Rochelle, gives 128 museum supplies vs level 9 dock, 6hr expedition to Rio, gives 51 supplies).

But yemen makes a good point too that there is a time difference here. Per the wiki, the level 9 dock expedition for Museum supplies comes back in 6 hours versus the level 6 dock expedition taking 48 hours.

Personally, I also have the sense that Museum supplies expeditions have begun to appear more frequently in the Dock. So I think Nexon are listening and slowly shifting the benefits in our favour.

All in all, the Museum feels like a powerful addition to the game. Like everything else in Dom, it takes effort to work it up to the point where it becomes useful. But, like other new stuff, Nexon seem to be watching and nudging things behind the scenes. I suspect they'll gradually modify the expedition options so that more advanced Docks do benefit from more supplies.

We just need to give them time (and, per your original post Cryos, occasionally remind 'em, lol)

 

[Ulysses]

Hmmm, I wonder if the devs could increase the number of slots in the Dock, as players upgrade it to higher levels?

I read somewhere that Nexon said the reason they had to remove some of the previous Dock rewards, eg. medic blessings, peace treaties, etc, was because their devs were busy with another project, so they didn't have the staffing "bandwidth" to figure out how to fit an extra column without taking away something else. So their easiest option was to take away the other stuff to fit the new Museum things.

But I guess there's no reason that they couldn't make Dock expeditions a scrollable window, like the Inventory, so the Dock could offer more than three expedition choices at higher levels...

 

[Manifesto]

Or simply simplify the number of items needed for the museum.
Supplies, benefactors, fragments, researchers AND blueprints?