How can u possibly win every single war?

[Equal]

and then that maxed out global performs attack on random alliances, random world war no 1 or 2, and we all like .... WTF?? TWO STARS!!! then makes the second attack and again ... WTF, 3 STARS on a 30 levels weaker opponent. I have seen it myself not once. And them comes some random No 4 or 5, level 165 or so and just whipes out that max global base. Spend your money as much as you want, but you cannot buy skill and mind.

 

[Europeos]

Trust me we have loads of players in our alliance with low or middle global age upgrades who 5 star fully maxed bases on a regular basis. And they're not big spenders at all...
BTW, you've spent more than I have on the game

 

[Europeos]

I doubt that'd be enough, Ju. I don't know about you but I hardly ever use HT. We need a major defense buff IMO.

 

[UA Bidness]

With 6 tactics, blitzkrieg and strength of gladiator and Max air capacity, all you need is max troops that you use(tanks, rifles, Healers, Howitzers and engineer) and it's possible to take down any base. Obviously mercenaries and generals make it even easier. They can be beaten by even French nations, and can most certainly be beaten by British, German and Korean nations(the strongest three nations for war).

The key is to take out a significant portion of the base in the first minute or so. Once half their base is destroyed and you sabotage mortars or anti tanks(depending on troop selection) it is just a race against time to finish the last of the buildings before you run out of time.

Maybe this will change once people have maxed out university defenses, but for now this remains true; with sufficient training anyone with a maxed our barracks army can destroy any base.

 

[Nakfarfar Titi]

Yeah not gonna change anything. Most hard hitters I know doesn't use HT at all

 

[JuDomines]

I'm not saying They Will disappear, i'm saying their Will be lot less perfect. The best attackers I know are using full HTs attacks (except Destrayer, but this guy is an alien anyway ). And they are 5 stars artist. Not only They are unstoppable, there is a form of nasty beautyness when those folks are using 4 HTs-like armies.

 

[Quang t legend]

some of the rich players also has 3 attacking coalitions at level 6!

 

[The Huns]

Really the thing they need to do most is nerd that extra 15 seconds. Before that there was a chance with good base design. Now that your first rally doesn't need to be TC it has become much too easy.

 

[Europeos]

Absolutely right

 

[Ravenlord]

Nakfarfar Titi - just because you have a different opinion to someone else doesn't make them ''wrong''. Different strokes for different folks dude.

 

[Ravenlord]

Maybe if people hadn't constantly complained about being matched up against impossible-to-beat alliances Nexon wouldn't have given us the extra 15secs QV upgrade ..... ??
Maybe Nexon's heart was in the right place even if their reasoning was in the toilet??

 

[Max_imus]

Good point here.

 

[Wendy]

Maybe, if people stopped to use iron age to balance global, wars would be more fair.
Player's ability is still in the game: for example today i made 5 stars with my industrial army to a good global age player(n2) with some global defenses, 3 generals and many things i don't have.
With a global age army the same player made me 3 stars and no QV, and i have no global age defenses. Then their number 10 global age ( i'm number 1 industrial) came and took me 5 easy stars knowing where my traps were.
if they didn't have 18 industrial, 4 global, 4 enlightment and 4 iron age we'd have destroyed them.
But math is math and with those numbers you simply can't lose a war against an industrial/enlightment alliance.
So until Nexon solves this problem solutions are two:
1) every alliance starts using iron age profiles, this way the game should be balanced again
2) we keep playing and make wars as we like, being defeated once in a while by those alliances and keep complaining here, unlistened.

for me the solution is simple:just give -10% gp for every iron age player in war.
it wouldn't affect those alliaces composed of real iron starting the game, as iron age lasts about 3 days for a normal player.
but it would surely put an end to this situation as after a couple of war winning 10 gp each people would change their method

 

[GailWho]

Thank you Ravenlord

 

[Nakfarfar Titi]

Actually Ravenlord GailWho there is a difference between having an opinion and Facts. Stating arguments based on wrong facts make the argument invalid, I'm pretty sure you both know that. GailWho's argument is that glor's complains about easy gaming experience is because of 1) Sandbags 2) Too much high levels and spendings or cheats, etc. that victories are OP and hollow.

See those are invalid argument. The alliances doesn't use 15 irons. Most are full global and in extream cases when search takes too long 2-5 irons. And no one has a max'ed account, no one has maxed walls and the lowest players can get 5 stars on max'ed players.

I respect other opinions of course.. But you can't say 'your alliance does 15 irons and have maxed players that's why you're complaining', that's not an opinion, thats a wrong statement.

 

[Nakfarfar Titi]

If the statement was 'I think people complain because of A and B' then I would've said 'I'll have to disagree, us, for example, we don't have A and B'

But when you say 'YOU are complaining because of A and B' then natrually if A and B doesn't exist in our alliance I will say 'No, you're wrong. We don't have A and B'.

 

[GailWho]

Ok so I wasn't going to reply to your post because I thought nothing good could come from it but you caught me on bad day so here goes...
A. I didn't say he was sand bagging what I said was ''this will also force those who sandbag...'' See nothing about him sandbagging. I said ''also'' and ''those who'' which implies alliances that do so, not necessarily his and I'm guessing yours since you are taking so much offense at it.

B. I wasn't complaining, I was offering a solution to a problem for those who have it which is wars always ending in a perfect score stalemate. If you don't like that solution and find it lacking you have the right to that opinion. But I personally think it will help alleviate many of the problems with the current system of war.

C. I see where you could have taken it that I thought your alliance (I didn't know what it was at the time) were spenders with maxed out bases because I was just extending what glor said about people (not necessarily your alliance) crowning max offensive upgrades to underscore what I believe to be true and that is that most gamers, when they have made it to the top and have defeated their opponents in all ways possible quit the game out of boredom and move on to the next new game. If this were not the case, game developers wouldn't put out sequels to games like Call of Duty, Halo, Elder Scrolls, Pokemon etc.

D. I apologize for offending you Nakfarfar Titi and your team mate @glorindel It was a poor choice of words on my part. I have respect for your team especially with that perfect score against team 50. Just getting matched with that alliance and taking out 30 of their bases proves that you don't have to sandbag to get to the top. This is a very divisive issue on the forum right now and I believe cooler heads will prevail. So lets just agree to disagree about my war system proposal and forget this whole thing happened.

 

[Ravenlord]

And this is why - GailWho Nakfarfar Titi - I don't war. (that and the fact that I have too much ''life'' going on)
There is sooo much fun to be had in this game but it's being spoilt by the war system with it's multi-faceted issues. A lot of people heralded the wars as the saviour of the game - and it probably is for a lot of you - but just look at the forum issues - 99.87% of the posts are about wars !!!!!
And people continue to give their ''opinions'' or quotes facts - rightly or wrongly - although I suspect a lot of people don't ''really'' know the difference.

So, peace out and enjoy the game as best as you can.

And regardless - my original statement still stands .....

ps: did you know that 74.3% of all percentages are made up??

 

[Ravenlord]

''keep complaining here'' ??!!!

Don't encourage them !!!

 

[Radzeer]

The complaints are from the players on the top of the iceberg (GA junkies). I can assure you, that 99% of the players absolutely love the +15s, or any other offensive help...

The game must be offense oriented. You can't defend when you log in. You can only attack. Offense is the funny part.

It shall not be too easy to 5 star (and it is not, all those who are complaining here, that it's too easy did atl. 20k+ attacks already - hell lot of practicing, if you ask me), but shall be still doable, after so much practicing.

The 5 star gives the casual players the enjoyment, and NEXON wants them to come back more and more.
The Big guns (from the mentioned alliances) are coming anyways, NEXON must attract those, who are not hooked yet. And NEXON must prepare the dish for them.
If the defenses would be stronger, the enjoyment of the casual players (99%) would decrease.

Please still remember, that by the current setings ww and multiplayer should be playable both. If you buff the defenses for war (where you throw the kitchen sink at your opponent) - multiplayer would be unplayable