Industrial Age Wonders

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So now that the Industrial Age is actually out and some people have decided to spend way more money than i ever will on this game, I'm wondering what everyone thinks of the new wonders? Speculation is ok as long as you inform everyone that it is just that and not a factual opinion from actual use of the wonders. Personally I think they all are good this time around, but for my playstyle I'm favouring the Brandenburg gate with the Kremlin a very close second. I will update this when I choose a wonder and then when it is completed and I can test it out.
 

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​Not really on topic, but I was surprised to see that they used an image of Saint Basil's Cathedral to represent the Kremlin even though they are distinct structures.
 

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Distinct but adjacent. Ive heard of kremlin..but hadnt heard st basil. Kremlin looks boring like versaille so thats out. But kremlin is the name im familiar with. So u combine the famous name with the famous picture. When i googled kremlin about half the pics were of the basil
 

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Purely theoretical. The wonders are dependant on your playstyle. In my corner of the dominations world defense is a hobby with very little benefit. When i log off someones going to beat my defense with 2x30 generals 5 tactics, full mercenaries, and army. Im still upgrading walls so i need gold. Protecting gold is my main priority. From that standpoint a successful defense means more gold lost from partial defenses. Best case scenario is someone pops my exposed tc and leaves. Next best case is a full wipe. So while all my farming/raiding/grinding is focused on upgrading my defense(walls). Im not at a point where i want to win defenses. Every day i burn medals to stay below 2800 medals so even the medal loss isnt something i care about. So by that logic the statue of liberty air defense and kremlin wall buff are useless. For a maxed out player who only cares about medals and can actually get a defense win that may be a different story. But unfortunately players close app rather than log a loss so gaining medals by defending is not something that happens at top leagues. Also even with zero gold in storage. At the highest leagues finding opponents is hard. I attack maxed out bases just for the 120k gold league bonus. I win without tactics mercs generals. Even with max walls, kremlin, angkor wat, lvl30 generals defending. Further reinforcing that defense doesnt matter at the highest levels...where it could possibly matter. BUT when alliance wars comes. Or weekend challenges base defense versus AI attacks it might start to matter again. But for now im going to eliminate any defensive wonder as being useful. Everyone can agree that brandenburg gate is useless. That leaves all the offensive wonder bonused which is where the only real benefit is. Which gives us.....
 

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Oh and i win against defenses with only raiders upgraded to industrial. Nothing else is industrial. My generals are lvl1 and 5, my tactics are lvl4 or 5. I have one barracks upgrading so in a month ill have 15 more troop capacity but not yet. If i was fielding an actual industrial army beating kremlin angkor wat maxed wall defenses would be even easier. But lets look at the offensive wonder bonuses....
 

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Eifel tower. Factory time reduction. Free oil each day. I wouldnt be caught dead building factory units who dont benefit from training blessing. I dont have an airfield to see how amazing airplanes are. But for now. My oil usage per day is zero. If zeppelins become integral to my tactics, if factory units becomes insanely overpowered to offset their long train time. Then maybe oil production and factory speed up will be useful. But now now. A player who uses gems to attack non stop with factory units would feel different about factory units. Im sure buffs are coming to oil units. Or nerfs to training blessing. Becauze right now im not seeing any attacks vs me using oil units
 

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Statue of liberty. Air defense buff. Useles. Right now ive seen zero air attacks vs my no air defense base with maxed gold storage which would in theory be best possible target. If there are zeppelin user out there i dont know where their hiding. So until a rebalance happens. For now air units seem useless as does a wonder that buffs and defends against them. 1hr rebuild time seems too long but until ive started using zeppelins myself i cant know for sure.
 

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By process of elimination im brought back to the kremlin. Not for its wall buff which is mostly useless. But for 40% general cooldown reduction. I dont use generals often. Occasionally i drop them somewhere safe where they wont get damaged to take out caravan bags or something. And then a trap gets sprung or i didnt realize the mortar could reach and they take some damage. So we finally have a wonder that i know will bring me offensive benefit which is the only thing that matters. I always see max generals attacking my base so i assume general cooldown benefits those people too. I also forget to deactivate my generals some times when i wake up their cooling down from being killed on defense. In that case kremlin would help too
 

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In a theoretical world where defense matters again(close app stops working, alliance wars, weekend events) then ill reassess which defense matters more. Air defense, wall defense? Who knows
 

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Since their style is so radical balance changes, Kremlin looks safe. I think it's smart to wait a bit with wonder, but if you're fine with spending crowns, krelmin could be optimal choice, agree
 

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By your own post the Brandenburg gate would not seem useless as it is an offensive wonder. Unless you are going off the incorrect info on wiki, which makes it seem useless. The game description clearly doesn't agree with wiki. The info there is wrong and pre release
 

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Where is this info coming from containing claimed bonuses which the game doesn't describe?
 

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A lot of you tube attack videos from some high players who usually have killer defences, show air units causing a lot of difficulty. Bamboo Coc shows just such a vid as does naughty bunni. Also the game description says it increases attack damage not defence. Where is all this wrong info being gathered from?
 

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Have you read the in game description?! Brandenburg gate is purely offensive. Unless there is some glitch that gives everyone a different description and ability for the wonders. Brandenburg gate disables defender producing buildings and buffs factory troops attack
 

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My android which has the info bookmarked is currently logged into the game so cant post it for u
 

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Well I just checked in game and Brandenburg gate does exactly what I said. So I'd like to know the source of your info so I can research it. I'm sure it is pre release info, I'll confirm when you get me the source
 

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Wiki is wrong on many stats, wonders included, trust the game before the internet. The game is the finished product the Internet is a guess and often not the correct info for the current state of the game
 

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Oh wow, yeah my info is wrong. The wonders have changed. Ignore everything i wrote theoretically
 

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Ok lets try this again :) eifel tower clearly useless. Kremlin purely defensive. Useless for now. Statue of liberty air boost(90% sure air units with their long 1hr build times are purely for gem users. I may be wrong and one zeppelin can be used over and over again. But if they die consistently their not for me). Brandenburg gate. Factory units damage buff. But factory units take too long to build for my tastes. Again, another possible gem player perk. Potential defensive value for large tank defenders which are technically factory units. Which just leaves one perk that will be of any use for me. The once a day defender freeze(blitzkrieg). I use the coloseum for same reason. Only offense matters. And coloseum gives once a day attack boost. Its not much. But for one battle i will use it. turning a close loss into a win. Which gives me 100k gold league bonus once a day. Maybe more if the win turns into a big win and allows me to loot extra gold resourves. So lets say on average 150k gold thanks to coloseum perk. The brandenburg blitzkrieg is the same thing on crack. No defenders for one battle is game over. Use that one a super tough maxed out industrial base with 600k gold. So im gonna say brandenburgh is good for on average 500k gold after league bonus.
 
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