Need suggestion of defending British attack

[Martine]

Lol .. Froggy. I understand that feeling all too well. Especially in the wars ...

 

[Martine]

Can someone please get me a new brick wall to bang my head against ...
So following the thought process of a couple of people here once the British have been made useless, next will be the sobbing about how the Korean army is too strong. Or the French ..
Heaven forbid they introduce a new nation ..
Heres a suggestion for you .. Go play a different game, one where everything is the same. So there is no challenge since this one is obviously beyond your skill set.

 

[Martine]

I don't know if you have received any useful assistance. The only thing I could suggest is to sacrifice your tc and hope for a quick and relatively cheap treaty. They still happen.
And my base has been rolled by both British and French armies. It was both beautiful and devastating at the same time.
Just keep upgrading and researching .... you get raided. Then you take it out on someone else. Thats what this game is all about.
Good luck

 

[Cielmers]

If you all envy of British unique. Then just switch to British that only cost you 600 crowns and after switched don't crying for French have faster training time than your British.

 

[Morality]

Who on earth are you raiding? Are you raiding the little 50k players? That won't certainly help your losses.

 

[Morality]

What if you already used the revolution once? Would that cost extra, like say 1000 crowns. But I'm sticking with the Chinese.

 

[Ravenlord]

People can defend it all they want, but the British unique unit definitely needs to be looked at. The +1 range is godly and puts this unique unit in a class all its own, way above anything any other nation has access to. The change doesn't necessarily need to be a "nerf", but possibly replacing the +1 range with some other trait that doesn't completely change the mechanics of the game (extra damage, fire rate, etc like Koreans and Chinese have).

Mr Suplex, what if I told you I am also happily 4-5 starring with my Roman nation and almost always 5 starring with my German Nation? My army combo for all 3 (incl my Brits) is almost exactly the same so perhaps it's not a question of using a nation that's too powerful but using a strategy that works .....?

Just a thought.

 

[Mr Suplex]

If you all envy of British unique. Then just switch to British that only cost you 600 crowns and after switched don't crying for French have faster training time than your British.

You completely missed the point if this is what you suggest as a "solution". Its not even worth discussing further.

 

[Mr Suplex]

Can someone please get me a new brick wall to bang my head against ...
So following the thought process of a couple of people here once the British have been made useless, next will be the sobbing about how the Korean army is too strong. Or the French ..
Heaven forbid they introduce a new nation ..
Heres a suggestion for you .. Go play a different game, one where everything is the same. So there is no challenge since this one is obviously beyond your skill set.

No other nation actually changes the game like British, and that is the problem. I have no problems with any other nation's unique abilities or troop types, because they only change the relative power of units and don't actually alter the fundamental mechanics of how the troop operates.

But keep blaming player skill levels instead of actually countering the point that +1 range is potentially a game breaking buff to a cheap, plentiful troop type. I have yet to see anyone justify how this is balanced.

 

[Martine]

You really miss the whole point don't you. So glad my opinion makes me look like a star.

Since you are not interested or able to follow common sense there is no point in discussing this with you any further.

Do not bother responding .. we shall never agree

 

[Mr Suplex]

So what is your counter to my points? I haven't seen one yet. I've clearly outlined what the problem is, and all you have done is throw insults around without any substance. Try harder moron.

 

[Mr Suplex]

Mr Suplex, what if I told you I am also happily 4-5 starring with my Roman nation and almost always 5 starring with my German Nation? My army combo for all 3 (incl my Brits) is almost exactly the same so perhaps it's not a question of using a nation that's too powerful but using a strategy that works .....?

Just a thought.

It says a few things:

1) You are probably an above average player.
2) Assuming you use a rifle heavy army like most, riflemen need a nerf or shock infantry needs a buff (or both)

But in all honesty, if you could only have one nation's unique unit of those three you play (assuming you kept all the nation's other traits like German rally and Roman expanded troop capacity), which would you choose? I'm actually going to do a poll

 

[Ravenlord]

So, given the fact that you and roughly a handful of others are making a noise about the Brits, Nexon should nerf them to the detriment of thousands of others ?!!! Pull your head in.

 

[Mr Suplex]

I'm not calling for a nerf; I'm calling for them to explore the issue and see if there is a problem. If they think one exists, REPLACE the +1 range with something else. I'm perfectly happy with the Brits having some other trait for their riflemen, but I question the balance of the +1 range.

 

[Ravenlord]

You can complain and campaign to have it removed and piss off plenty of others or you can grow and develop strategies to combat it. I'll leave you in peace to decide which way you want to grow.

 

[Ravenlord]

Why stop at the Brits? I say campaign against the additional Roman troops - or the Greek powerhouse tank. Or the Koreans archer too.

And while you're at it, lets get rid of the quicker German rally and unique unit. AND the buff from a victory!! I mean, the Germans are just so damn powerful right now - doesn't everybody realise this??!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr Suplex]

Nice straw man. It doesn't refute my points though.

 

[Mr Suplex]

Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe it isn't a balance issue, but I shouldn't have people rage and insult me just for raising the issue. If it turns out it is a small minority, I trust Nexon to be smart enough to ignore it. If it turns out that they see a trend in British victories, further action can be taken.

I've helped playtest and balance games that are far more competitive and complicated than this one, and every competitive game with asymmetrical factions goes through balance changes; some factions get buffs, and some get nerfs. It is the nature of things and if people can't handle the thought of nerfs, than THEY are the ones who should find another game and leave these sorts of discussions to the adults.

 

[Martine]

I have already countered your alleged points. Its called research and upgrades. And the British were famous for their long bowmen. Plenty of people already complain about Nexon getting history wrong. You can not change history just becsuse you don't like it.

And really name calling .. ... that is just pathetic

 

[Ravenlord]

Mr Suplex, this might make you happy - poetic justice if you will. My Brit base was attacked by 2 Brit armies - lvl151 & 135 - overnight and l was 3 & 4 starred respectively. I accept that what goes around comes around - its the nature of this game, is it not ?

However the most one got was about 70% destruction. They both lost all their troops cos they didn't destroy all my towers - my base is too spread out. Now l will learn from this and move on.