No excuse not to fix the AR this week

[No Angel]

I love the 0AR wars comment. See you guys have implemented a fix on your own

TinSoldier BHG_Muet i agree assault rally needs to be fixed asap and after testing. You know the tactic is broken when the community starts discussing 0ar wars to make wars more challenging rather than hv max 3d bases taken out in 60-70 secs. Personally I have not played in any war since this was introduced.

Regarding some other comments from either occasional/ casual or lower level players to leave the tactic unchanged, sorry, i have no sympathy. I can understand why atomic players would enjoy taking out high level space age defensive bases (fun to vent frustrations in this manner isnt it, but if i may suggest as an alternative candy crush!) but i dont think thats sustainable long term with no incentive for defenders whatsoever. Similarly if people find raiding with this tactic easier, i can understand that but that's not the purpose of the tactic, if people want faster resources nexon can change the requirement for upgrades or increase resource generation, etc. Lastly as a disclaimer i am not a defender (certainly not a top one) but want to make this request given wars have completely lost their spark since this tactic was overpowered, i simply dont find it fun or challenging to track entire top team wars along the 1min average destruction/base.

 

[Manifesto]

Regarding some other comments from either occasional/ casual or lower level players to leave the tactic unchanged.

What about the high level players who don't begrudge the lower level player having a chance to beat a high level player?
l refuse to believe all the high level players are individuals more concerned about their status in a game than attacking gameplay.
just my 2 cents.

ps: you haven't played in any wars since the AR change? I wasn't aware a game issue was that earth shattering.

 

[pckrn]

Mixie i dont. im in space age and my mortars are still enlightenment.

 

[Berend_War]

Wondering my self, if it's not only the assault rally that is broken. Do regular friendlies against my own base and and bases from allies. And they all seem to have lost some defensive strength.
Also seeing attacks on my base without assault rally that 5 star it with ease in war. Even with defensive coalitions loaded.
no numbers on it but seems to have changed around the space age update.
Just a feeling.

A other explanation could be I'm getting really good but I doubt that

 

[pckrn]

they gave us 3 extra airspace. and even just 1 wouldve been huge

 

[Berend_War]

I'm industrial and 5 starring my base without any effort. Before the space age I needed SH troops to accomplish that. Notting really changed in troop composition and strength. Only defensive buildings are getting stronger. Don't have the advantage of AR and the extra air troops.
Maybe I missing something else like I said it's just a feeling I have.

 

[~Kratos~]

Well said.

Where is the 0AR discussion? I'd be interested to read.

 

[pckrn]

maybe you really are getting better

 

[pckrn]

so it seems there are 5 groups of people:

A: i invested a lot into my defense and they should do their money’s worth. nerf the AR.

B: i dont even have heavy defenses. what i want is a strategic gameplay. nerf the AR.

C: i dont really have strong opinions towards either way. AR probably is op. i just hope they dont nerf it as much as they did Protect.

D: i am not very good at attacking and AR is a godsend. keep it the way it is

E: i have little to no experience with high-level AR being used multiple times in a single battle but i like to have my voice heard.

aside from that last group, everyone has a point. what i dont get is why some people in groups C & D are trying to frame people in groups B & C as elitist and begrudging lol

 

[No Angel]

People in group B actually has other option. Stay away from group A, and enjoy their strategic gameplay without too much complaints which have made the other groups classify them as ''elitists''.They have all other options beside AR RPG right?

 

[Manifesto]

I hope you're not suggesting group A should get whatever they ask for because they've chosen to spend money on a free game?
Or suggesting group A should at least influence Nexon's decisions because they've chosen to spend money on a free game?
Personally, I'm not comfortable with either suggestion. Nexon need to make decisions for the masses, not the moaners.
In reality Nexon can make whatever decisions it wants, regardless of the masses or the moaners.

 

[pckrn]

Manifesto the last sentence of my post was meant as: if you got something against group A, leave groups B and C out of it.

no angel has clearly understood what i meant, but she’d rather just shoot everyone standing there and say its your own fault for standing near my target. kinda did expect that of her.

 

[~Kratos~]

Manifesto, in group A you can also think of the players who spent $0, but did spend years of effort on their defensive power that is now negated to 0 (lvl4 simply cuts through max defenses like iron age).

I am not in this group by any means (rather 'group B') but it is just something to consider.

No Angel, I really have no idea what you are talking about. How do you stay away from certain people in this game? You do not get to choose your war opponents.

 

[No Angel]

pckrn I'm just stubborn

 

[No Angel]

I just logged in the game, checked one of my accounts defense log, and...found out that I was attacked by 2 people I recognized in this forum. I was surprised that 1 of them belonged to this elitists (''belong to this elite alliance'') that SPOKE UP openly against AR current stat! He attacked with 32 Veteran RPG and 4 AR . Stole 12K oil too!
Well well well, you guys seem to like it, don't you?

PS. Nice job, that actually made me smile, I don't mind losing that amount of oil

 

[pckrn]

people who use rpg + ar would be more likely to speak up against the current ar because they know how powerful it is, maybe even so much to the point that they dont see any other combos as effective, and feel they are being forced by bhg to use this combo.

people who dont use that combo would be more likely to want to keep the current ar because they dont know just how powerful it is. there actually are many examples on this very forum.

seriously this is so obvious. unless youre the kind of person who is so selfish that they think whatever they use should not be nerfed and whatever they dont use can be nerfed

 

[No Angel]

pckrn Well I use them and I like them. As far as I know some of my friends that use them also love them
Can't hide it that we all actually like them and take this advantage
You know, I think this AR complaints started in the wrong way, just as if a tactician started it, I must have been less vocal against it ; too bad it was elitists that started it

Also, I don't use Protect, First Aid, Demolitions and Sabotage. I don't feel entitled to promote or let them get nerfed. In fact, I want them to be boosted as much as possible for a better rebalance. Some people enjoy using them in this current states, and they will love it when all tactics are made better.

Imho, I sense this from some people.
Early days of glorious AR RPG, they loved the combo, felt overpowered on top, but then other people started to learn how to manage that combo, and crushed their defense. They got upset. I wouldn't blame them, it's fairly understandable that your enemies have learned from your strategy too. I guess this what has happened. I'm not sure about you (since you belong to group B ) but I sense this from others

 

[pckrn]

if a tactician starts it you’re less vocal
if an elitist starts it you’re more vocal

so you dont really have a position and youre not open for any discussion. you simply have spite for elitists and for anyone that, in your rage, looks like they might be allied with elitists, when in reality they’re actually here with a separate reasoning.

thats a recipe for writing some very dumb posts that no amount of emojis can cover up

 

[~Kratos~]

I just logged in the game, checked one of my accounts defense log, and...found out that I was attacked by 2 people I recognized in this forum. I was surprised that 1 of them belonged to this elitists (''belong to this elite alliance'') that SPOKE UP openly against AR current stat! He attacked with 32 Veteran RPG and 4 AR . Stole 12K oil too!
Well well well, you guys seem to like it, don't you?

PS. Nice job, that actually made me smile, I don't mind losing that amount of oil

Using/loving the power of AR does not mean one doesn't realize how ridiculously overpowered it is. On the contrary. The more you use it, the more you will realize so, and everything else will feel obsolete.

And in war you simply do not have a choice. If enemy uses it and you do not, you will lose, end of story. That is the whole problem and the source of complaints, being forced to use it... how can you not comprehend this?

It is a similar situation to elephant archers, which resulted in the creation of 0SH groups. The only difference is that this is a free feature, so anyone can use it. And the problem with that: this makes the game totally one sided, AR being the exclusive strategy to use now (refer to Group B complaint in pckrn's post). Is that what you call a fun strategy game?

 

[No Angel]

It's called Visible Sarcasm pckrn. Always shown on my every post, incase you haven't noticed