Pax Augusta Event - a Pay to Win event?

pckrn

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use speedups to win wall manuals?
next event maybe we can have ‘spend crowns to win infantry recruits’
 

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Wall manuals sucks. Collect 15 pieces to improve one segment to one level.. thank you!
I would be interested in one manual for one level.
 

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Egregiously pathetic. Didn’t ever think they’d do something like this. I have a bunch saved up, and my GPA requirements will be low, but it’s still a silly event.
 

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Literally, the opposite of this event would be worth doing: trade some wall manuals for speed ups... not the other way around haha.

Wall manuals are just tiny amount of gold/food... in this event you would be trading citizens time for resources. That is the exact opposite of what you should ever do in this game. Time is your most valuable resource.

Whoever came up with the idea of this event should be fired. I don't like to be too rude to the devs usually, but this is truly beyond words pathetic.

The only way I can find a justification to progress even one step in this event is if you have some upgrade ongoing that you would like to speed up anyway, then do that, sure, get some free manuals. But by no means use any speed ups specifically for this...
 
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I think your idea of "use your Speedups and benefit from additional rewards" is much more of what the team had in mind with this event, {[Fresh]}Kratos. We know that some players have amassed a number of Speedups from League Boats, Victory Chests, Marco Polo, video rewards, and Wonders and this upcoming week is the prime time to put them to good use!

Since this is the first time we've run an event with this as the requirement, I know the team will be interested in seeing how this event stands up against others, such as 'train troops' and 'Earn Stars'.

As we run events like this in the future, we could likely change the reward types. If you're interested in voting for the type of rewards offered in events, be sure to follow our Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/playdominations) for the Community Choice polls!
 

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TinSoldier but the point you are missing here is that wall manuals are almost completely useless. It takes 3 to upgrade one square of wall from L8 to L9, and no less than 6 to go from L9 to L10. Clearly someone at BHG doesn’t realise this, because one solitary wall manual is often the star prize for watching the fifth daily video.
 

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Complaining that free stuff isn't good enough is silly. Not everybody loves every event and that's fine, but is it worth making a fuss about? I vote no, it's not. Simply don't do the event if you don't want, or do it, either way it's optional.

Also this is not P2W at all and this term is getting thrown around too much lately. Nothing about speeding up builds is "P2W" ... sure you can argue P2A (A=Advance) but again, this optional event is for free stuff....
 

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Complaining that free stuff isn't good enough is silly. Not everybody loves every event and that's fine, but is it worth making a fuss about? I vote no, it's not. Simply don't do the event if you don't want, or do it, either way it's optional.

Also this is not P2W at all and this term is getting thrown around too much lately. Nothing about speeding up builds is "P2W" ... sure you can argue P2A (A=Advance) but again, this optional event is for free stuff....

Yeah, I agree that nothing about this event is P2W or even P2A, not sure how that even came up. You could say it was P2A if it was the opposite, like I said (requiring the use of manuals for speed up rewards). But even then that's not really the problem here...

TinSoldier , I understand, the problem is that people normally wouldn't use up/waste all their speed ups in masses in one concentrated time, and a couple of wall manuals (basically just free gold/food) aren't gonna make people do that. At least not people who have any kind of long term commitment and any idea about the value of time vs resource in this game. Hence it is a useless event.
I think the only people who will go for this event specifically, are the poor unaware new players who are fooled into thinking wall manuals are worth anything - most of all by the excessive overpriced sales containing them.

SomeRandomPlayer Yes, no point to complain about free stuff, but I think one can also reason with the fact that instead of this we could have had a good event with good rewards. This event by my view is literally a waste of coding time by the devs, which could be used to fix some game issues or create something more worthwhile.
 

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This event by my view is literally a waste of coding time by the devs

this. this is the reason nothing is really free, because of losses in opportunity costs.

also, im sure many arent really complaining about the rewards themselves, but complaining about the logical circuit of the devs who have come up with such rewards. the wiring of the devs brains will affect other parts of the game too.
 

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I understand the frustration, I really do, and the concept of opportunity cost (working on stuff seemingly unimportant instead of fixing bugs and cheats) but it does not apply in this case. Now does it apply to Cyan vs Orange? Yeah. Does it apply to most new troop tactics? Yes. But not to events like this. And yes, most agree that wall manuals suck and make fun of them at every opportunity.

Every event is the same but with a few different parameters. Whether it's speed ups or enemy troops or forts or generals or whatever, it's simply a parameter. Same for the what is won; simply parameters. Food, wall manuals, troop tactics, it doesn't matter, a simple configuration file e.g., prize1=wallmanual,prize1count=1, prize2=food, prize2count=50101....

Of course I'm speculating here but I bet it takes 5 minutes by one person to create an event. Also probably a bunch of them (let's say, for 6 months in advance) are all planned and defined together. The art work and name are generic and can be anything. Pax Augusta itself is being reused; the google shows that it was used for collecting trade goods in the past as that's a parameter. Someone reused the entire thing but changed trade goods to speed ups for this week's event. Simple.

To summarize: no bugs were unharmed in the making of this event. :)

That said, could events be fun and something involving the community? Yes. Every so often we vote on one parameter (one of the prizes) but what about all parameters? Heck, are there community members that'd enjoy writing an entire event including all parameters (i.e. every step and prize, and name/description) as a proposal? Yes, many are creative and would enjoy it. But the thought of more community involvement comes up often in many ways (e.g., beta testers) but doesn't happen and that's the real tragedy here.
 
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pckrn

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every moment a dev spends thinking about wall manuals is time lost. so this event added 3 minutes on top of the hours already accumulated :)

and that last paragraph really is a tragically lost opportunity, something better that we couldve had :(
 

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...im sure many arent really complaining about the rewards themselves, but complaining about the logical circuit of the devs who have come up with such rewards. the wiring of the devs brains will affect other parts of the game too.
That's right.
The months I've been in the League a Dynasty and I do not remember that I have completed at least one events. Not only that the conditions are too heavy for me (CWA275), and awards often simply garbage. It looks like events caught up with the same fate as the video awards, when you have to watch five videos for the sake of getting one weak troops card.
TinSoldier, perhaps your prizes will be of interest to players of the stone age but not those who play for several years.
 
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pckrn

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im space age in dynasty 1 and i finished the last two events as well as a couple in april (i think?). i thought the event difficulty is much better now than it was few months ago, and the superHT reward is not garbage. that quote of me was meant for _really_ odd choices that devs make, not just subjectively unsatisfying ones
 

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For somebody doesn’t have speed-ups in inventory, this event is pay-to-participate. There’s no realistic way for somebody to go earn a bunch of speed-ups in order to particiipate without spending. (Side note: if Nexon convinces people to burn through a bunch of stored speed-ups, they have a better chance of persuading people to buy crowns in the near future. Again, not technically P2W or forcing people to participate, but definitely geared towards getting people to spend money and not about creating a fun event that everyone will enjoy.)

Whether somebody has a bunch of speed-ups in inventory or not, I strongly suspect the wall manual rewards won’t be enough to make any rational person want to dump them during the event if they weren’t going to use them already. Wall manuals seem like Nexon’s way to trick people who are bad at math into equally bad decisions, given the way Nexon consistently overvalues them. But they’re not changing them, so they must be happy with what they’re gaining through the bad decisions.

”Complaining that free stuff isn’t good enough is silly.” Tell that to Tin Soldier, who literally asked us for input on what rewards we would like to see from events two posts above yours. They are asking for feedback; I would think that would include opinions that an event isn’t a good one.
 
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