Should you take advantage of Instant advance to next age or not?

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

I don't know if a 5% or 1-in-20 chance of getting a 3-star artifact is worth getting excited about. This is the same RNG that routinely gives zero NTG's for 5-star victories despite the supposed 80% chance. The rest of the Space Age library is pretty solid though.

 

[SomeRandomPlayer]

I'm certain it is worth getting excited about as you need just one to start the perpetual daisy chain. Upgrade all three lines once (e.g., 1% to 2%) then sell to see what I mean; it essentially means having unlimited artifacts/blueprints.

It's overpowered and sucks for non-SA players. I suspect it wasn't intentional (as it looks innocent on paper) but in practice it's ridiculous.

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

Guess I'll find out in a month or two as it's the last set of SA library upgrades I'll be bothering with. It's unfortunate that the unwieldy, cumbersome, tedious, grindy chore of the museum is pretty much a requirement of high level gameplay. Especially when a few logical tweaks to how artifacts are produced, organized and sold would make it decidedly less so.

 

[oddin]

if you have the level requirement then just go...It is exactly the same.

 

[oddin]

the domination bonus is the same if you are CWA and SA hitting the same bases. The only downside of advancing is that events are much much harder....Nothing else.

 

[oddin]

I have reviewed my plan and decided that even if the instant retrain is immediately available, it still limits your choices of upgrades and someone will not have the time to complete troop upgrades or importnat buildings. Still, the better choice is to advance to SA the next 3-7 days and then immediately upgrade airport+factory+library. This will allow for cheap upgrading of VRPG+Fighters+HT MK8 or whatever else everybody wants.

https://imgur.com/itmz5Pm

 

[Saruman the White]

Space Age is the last Age. Unless they have something else in mind

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

No it isn't. Why was I routinely getting 10,000 plus oil from atomic bases as a CWA and getting half as much in Space Age from the same bases then?The same thing happened going from atomic to CWA last year, but it wasn't as drastic because the domination bonuses didn't exist then.

Depending on how advanced one is it's a relatively moot point. If one can't gather the requisite oil for whatever during these absurdly long build times then they have bigger problems than domination bonuses or 2 age penalties.

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

It says Digital Age when you click on the Space Age town center. Considering how absolutely lackluster SA has been it can't be too difficult for them to tweak a few graphics and values for existing buildings and units and voila! Digital Age.

 

[oddin]

I am pretty sure that there is a mistake here.
I was CWA and was getting oil bonus like this:
global ~800
atomic ~2000
cwa ~7000

Then space age was released and it changed to:
atomic ~900
cwa ~2800
space ~9000

All values are rounded up. Also Sally Ride increased the bonus too.

Now, If you go to Space age then:
atomic ~900
cwa ~2800
space ~9000
You have this which is exactly the same as CWA. It will stay like this TILL DIGITAL AGE is released.

And when Digital age is released, it will become like this:
cwa ~900
space ~2800
digital ~9000

In that case, you won't be allowed to hit atomic bases anymore. But till then you will have max offfence and pretty good defence so it doesnt really matter.

 

[oddin]

there is a guy, among the many, who earns thousands of blueprints per crafting session. His artifacts are almost at 50/50....And it all came right after he finished Archaelogy. If you ask me, then it sure is a game changer research

 

[pckrn]

the Domination bonus is not the same. it increases.
a CWA attacking SA is 9k
a SA attacking SA is 10k

 

[pckrn]

it’s not perpetual. roughly it works out to give you 28 artifacts for the price of 20.

(a 3 star artifact gives you fragments to create 6 more, out of those 6, 0.3 will be 3-star, which lets you craft 2 more)

it IS huge though. a cwa should stop crafting anything until they get to sa asap and get this tech.

 

[Exiliado]

This thread encouraged me to advance sooner. Thank you, wrathchild_78!

 

[oddin]

you will not regret it mate. When the time comes, you will have everything unlocked and you will take advantage of all the oil discounts much better

 

[Agamemnon999]

I guess I will remain an outlier by not upgrading, even though I am a level 269 CWA right now. The only real compelling reason I see to go up is the Library research, some real good stuff there. Especially the time reductions on research.

As for why to stay, the main reasons are events, the Dominations Oil bonus, and my general desire to max out building (defensive) upgrades before moving on.

I barely finish some events now as the requirements are too high, but when they have things like the Yi helmet, finishing is worth a lot. I was able to immediately sell it and 5 star 3 artifacts with all the supplies it provided.

As for the Oil bonus, there are quite a few "rushed" space age right at 246 that are actually pretty easy to 5-star. With my museum bonuses of 60% All resources looted, and the Dominations oil bonus of +9500 or so, I regularly get 20k oil on attacks. Since I haven't quite finished Haile yet (I know I've been slacking...) and all my Generals are level 31 or under, I still need tons of oil, and oil that generally is not citizen dependent which means I can use it immediately. I've also pretty much stopped attacking Atomic bases as the +915 oil isn't worth it. Not enough return. Can someone confirm what the Dominations oil bonus is for attacking down 2 levels?

Lastly, I'll say that how I play the game has changed a lot over time. I used to login and go on huge runs, but with build times so long now, I log in a few times a day at best, attack and then I go back to my life. I prefer to make those few times as worthwhile as possible so I do less grinding, that's one of the reasons the Dominations bonus is worth so much to me. So how you play should make a big difference to how you think about upgrading.

 

[JustAnotherPlayer]

While you guys debate until the cows comes home,I'm churning out artifacts and selling em for blueprints and upgrading pieces that I deem beneficial for my troops combo. If this forum would just let me post my upgraded artifacts. Lately I haven't been able to. Is there any other way that can post pics here?

 

[Agamemnon999]

Haha, if I had it in me to grind I would. I am already sitting on 60k+ artifacts. I whittle them down occasionally but it is just too much work. I'm not sure I want any more right now...

 

[pckrn]

if a SA and a CWA attacked the exact same city and achieved the exact same result, the SA gets more Domination Oil bonus.

 

[JustAnotherPlayer]

Haha..baller. That artifact you've in your avatar pic will put all enemy planes over your skies outta business.