So with the latest Re-balances, which nations are the best starting from Atomic age?

[Gears]

From Atomic age onwards, which Nation's unique gain/lose importance.
1. Multiplayer Battles/Raids
2. World War?

I am British nation user, the loot bonus and the additional range helped quite a lot up until Atomic age and since then I am using far fewer Riflemen in my attack combination.

So I wanted to ask, does the British unique Ranged infantry(+1 range & 15% additional damage) still remain a viable option in troop composition for world war battles?

Or switching to German the only alternative for world war battles?

From another thread, I also learnt that the German 15% Teutonic fury bonus drops to 8.5% when you take into account DPS bonus available from Library/University researches and Coalitions. This most likely applies to all unique DPS bonus for all nations.

Please state reasons it would be helpful.

*I have not added Greek(French unique bonus is better) & Japanese(German unique bonus is better) nations to the poll.

 

[No Angel]

Objectively : Just Germans.
Subjectively : Brits are good in all ages, my AA still use cannon mitra combo in WW often, so do few good attackers I know (not as often as HTs), but if you are questioning about how viable they are in WW, clearly you are doubting them, so...go Germans and leave the doubts behind

 

[pckrn]

romans are also good because +1 HT.
koreans are also good because +1 AR.
chinese are good for atomics because it will get you to cwa faster.
french are good for mp because you can replace lost troops quickly.
british are also good because shooter/howie combo still works, and troop tactics you can get for free blends in better with that combo, too

 

[Cannibals]

I play French for the extra donations and faster train times until Medieval Age. Then British for the added damage, range, and loot until Industrial. Then Romans for the bonus HT.

 

[phil_dee]

Romans isn't really +1 HT, though--it's +1 HT *minus* whatever you take away to make enough room to fit that HT. It's an extra fifteen spaces for advanced players; I can't think of ANY fifteen-space troop assortment that comes close to the value that Germans bring. Even if it WERE twenty-four extra spaces (or +1 HT), that isn't nearly worth the +15% attack to all of your regular troops, planes, donated troops, mercenaries, etc. that Germans bring.

 

[No Angel]

I actually agree with this idea, 100% agree, but it'll confuse our OP and he will be indecisive
Make your choice pckrn

(Psst... In ''big'' wars, people switch nations to acquire those benefits first, then final result is Germans still)

 

[NateTheGreat]

The +15 troop capacity << +15% all troops bonus damage, rally duration & rally number
The damage from 7 HT vs 6 HT +15% dmg is within 200 dps, but the damage increase to merc troops, TT, generals and planes is indisputable.

Besides a lot of players are using bazooka combos now on high level bases and that extra rally duration and rally # is insane with the AR war tactic.

 

[Ask97]

AA - British for the loot bonus and swarm attack
CWA - German

If you don’t mind spending crowns for change then go with British in AA. Once you are CWA then resources are not a problem and then you can switch to German.

 

[Tsamu]

I agree, Germans are best, but with an RPG/AR/Americans/Ethiopians attack, it doesn't really matter except at the very highest level. My 2 CWA bases are French so I can fill requests and retrain quickly, and I can clear any base up to CWA 260. We have a German CWA 300 for the really big enemy bases.

 

[Cannibals]

Although +15% damage across all troops is great, with Romans the extra troops bring more health to the battle too. That’s shouldn’t be overlooked.

 

[Mixie]

Why no one voted for Korean? I'm actually thinking to make a Korean alt

 

[sileepuppee]

From a war perspective and being atomic or cwa,

(1) Germans. For those that are low lvl or not familiar with the perks yes the extra dmg is mighty deadly. Let’s not forgot that it buffs every troop including a planes, mercs, and generals. But the rally perk wasn’t mentioned which if you’re an experienced attacker you should be rallying as much as you can to keep the speed going with your troops. Having a shorter rally cool down is really useful.
(2/3/4/5) Brits/Romans/koreans/French. Nothing in this particular but each has its own strength. I think Romans may have a slight edge on the others solely based on the fact that more and more people are just going full HT assault which seemed to go away in my wars for a little while but is now back with a vengeance. I think because of the assault rally (Staying at lvl 1 because of the penalties for upgrading) that extra tactic actually makes an impact. Brits are still good but in cwa high lvl base attacks having the Brit’s shooters don’t work as well because the defenses are so much stronger. Sure you can use factory troops/bazookas/apcs and such but than you’re not really using the brits strongest troop so you being Korean would at least get you an extra tactic. Against atomic bases our Brit players still crush but going against cwa bases we have seen a decline. French have the added ally troops which are useful but other than that, no different in attack because you won’t win hard fights using their specialty tanks.


From a multiplayer layer perspective I think

(1) French/Brit. It’s true that you can raid with any force but French would be tops solely on the quicker retraining. Maybe you won’t get 5 stars but being able to attack more will yield more loot. Brits are after since they get the loot bonus.

(2) Everyone else. It really depends on ones style of play but if you’re going for raids that have you get 5 stars (Which I do) than having Germans will benefit you because of the dmg. I also like that because of new reward system you get a decent amount of loot for getting 5 stars (2.4k against AA and 8.4k on cwa). But if you’re using hit and run tactics than Germans have less use since you don’t get the fury from losing battles. Romans,Koreans,etc are all about the same as well.


This is all just my opinion and I’ve only ever played 2 nations since playing this game for a year and half and most of what I’ve said here is experience from other players in my alliance. It’s not just what the game says are the stats and perks are but from actual game play. I used Koreans from the start until atomic and for the most part it worked out fine for me. Eventually I switched to Germans because my AA v AA were getting difficult and keeping in mind that I only switched because the Revolution was on sale that time. I know that there are benefits to changing nations but as a non p2w or even a pay anything for this game crowns can be hard to use. I think it just depends on how badly or how frustrated players get because they can’t improve on their gameplay. Would I have picked Germans from the very start? Probably not though I would’ve picked brits from the very start just to help the whole leveling and progress throughout but I’m very happy that I use German nation now as 241 CWA because I know that I wouldn’t be able to do what I do now with any other another nation but again that’s just my experience.

 

[phil_dee]

Not that much health, though--remember that it isn't a fully extra HT, it's an HT minus a bunch of stuff.

 

[NateTheGreat]

Yea the extra 50-60k health fully upgraded HT is useful. But then again if 5* on a high level CWA base was about bringing more health then you wouldn't bring HT. There is more total health if you add 5 HT+ 3 main battle tank II instead of 6+1 HT. (which no one would recommend)

Our best attackers in our alliance are using bazookas + AR tactic + vet bazooka TT to take down lv 280 CWA 3D bases.
It's all about the total DPS output with little thought of balancing of health. Getting those defender spawning buildings killed ASAP is most important.

 

[Saruman the White]

I have voted for the Germans, but I think that the French are good too. DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE of choosing the Greeks. They are the worst faction of the game, totally neglected by NEXON, reluctantly refusing to do anything to improve their OBSOLETE powers. The Greeks have nothing to offer you after 2-3 Ages of the game, I have many times stated that, unfortunately talking to deaf ears.

BTW TinSoldier please give us a clue if there's any point continuing with the Greeks (hoping for a well needed re-balance), or all of us who made that stupid mistake should start considering changing nations (obviously resulting to their removal from the game).

 

[No Angel]

Agree Voted for Germans but I'm running on French and Brits as well. And being French is the best thing if you were the armory of the alliance. All leaders must choose French, and all warriors must choose Germans!

 

[Gears]

Thank you all for voting and responding on this thread.

I had already decided on switching to German once I started using more Factory troops but I just wanted to know if British unique riflemen still retain their edge to be viable as integral units in the attack compositions for Cold War age and based on the responses here, I got my answer.

The only thing I am going to miss is the Command Post and Armory defenders being British unique riflemen as they tend to be quite powerful if the attacker chooses to ignore them.

 

[Gears]

@Saurman the White - Yes, hence I didn't include Greeks and Japanese in the polls.

 

[Gears]

Thank you for leaving such a detailed response. Yes the German rally boost is another bonus.

 

[Tsamu]

But if nobody chooses Greeks, how will I get the scrolls I need for coalitions? This is already a problem; I can' tell you how many British and German bases I have to hit next on to get to a nation whose NTG I need. It's only going to get worse with Space Age.