To damn long to advance through the ages and more University stuff makes it painful

[Funken_A]

I'm a grinder who does spend about $500 a year on this game.. Right now I am desperately trying to finish up my university upgrades so I can move on to industrial age.

new update adds a whole other set of university upgrades to accomplish.

I spent about 60k crowns at the beginning of Enlightenment (January 2018) age to quickly upgrade my offense. I have upgraded everything since that date and I am only left with university upgrades to max out for the level.

My issue is I spent a fair amount of money and its still going to take me well over a year to get through an E.A. This is a turn off this gets old and this may be a reason why I leave the game. I want to advance and I do not like to rush bases. The reason I do not like to rush bases is that in the end I will just have this much more catch up to do with anything that was rushed along.

I am hoping to see a way to reduce the time it takes to upgrade university stuff... There is so much of it and many of the levels take over a week for each upgrade... Since I spent my money on the early part of the Age I am not going to continue to spend more money at the end. (I do accumulate crowns and spend to get them but I save those for the beginning of the next age)... I feel my financial support is more than enough.

The university upgrades take too long IMO

 

[oddin]

yes they are lengthy but this is a game of patience...A LOT of patience.
This means that you should take your time and advance slowly but steadily in the beginning and after you reach Industrial age, where the upgrades take 10+ days, start giving crowns to rush the main buildings. Have in mind that upgrades in global and atomic age take 12-14 days.

In addition, university is useful but it is not required to do everything. In fact, it slows your progress down. Imagine how many defensive buildings you would have completed in the next age instead of doing every single research now. I prefer to do only the important ones and those from leaders that are not that lengthy (amelia, selassie and the other 3). Infact, I have completed the 3 easiest, 40/75 Amelia and 25/75 Selassie. The percentage you gain from upgrading the buildings themselves is greater and faster than doing the researches at the uni.

my 2 cents

 

[pckrn]

just age up already.

‘rushed bases’ means people with like atomic offense and gunpowder defense. no one will classify yours as rushed. and catch up is actually easier later on because you have more workers in higher ages.

just because you can do something before aging up, doesnt mean you must do it. if you really try to do all the univ now, your enlightenment age will last much much longer than your global age. do you think thats natural? btw even tinman has mentioned before that a lot of those were meant as endgame stuff. if you actually like doing endgame stuff in the early game, thats fine, but you dont sound like you’re enjoying that, so age up and go a little slower on the univ. unless you have ocd and you must do it whether you enjoy it or not. in that case you just gotta live with it but it wont be the game’s fault

 

[Funken_A]

yes they are lengthy but this is a game of patience...A LOT of patience.
This means that you should take your time and advance slowly but steadily in the beginning and after you reach Industrial age, where the upgrades take 10+ days, start giving crowns to rush the main buildings. Have in mind that upgrades in global and atomic age take 12-14 days.

In addition, university is useful but it is not required to do everything. In fact, it slows your progress down. Imagine how many defensive buildings you would have completed in the next age instead of doing every single research now. I prefer to do only the important ones and those from leaders that are not that lengthy (amelia, selassie and the other 3). Infact, I have completed the 3 easiest, 40/75 Amelia and 25/75 Selassie. The percentage you gain from upgrading the buildings themselves is greater and faster than doing the researches at the uni.

my 2 cents

I have plenty of patience but i'm not going to support a game where it takes more than a year plus $1000 to get through an age. Patience is one thing but this is stupid IMO. I do nto care about defensive building I will finish an age completely or I will quit in frustration and stop supporting the game

The university upgrades open up more upgrades that are pretty fantastic. SO by avoiding a few you are not unlocking another set of really beneficial ones. I like to be as strong as I can at the age I am at....

This is the reason for my complaint people who like to max a Age/level should not be punished for doing so. There should be a reasonable expectation to how long an age will last to fully max without the use of crowns

 

[Funken_A]

just age up already.

‘rushed bases’ means people with like atomic offense and gunpowder defense. no one will classify yours as rushed. and catch up is actually easier later on because you have more workers in higher ages.

just because you can do something before aging up, doesnt mean you must do it. if you really try to do all the univ now, your enlightenment age will last much much longer than your global age. do you think thats natural? btw even tinman has mentioned before that a lot of those were meant as endgame stuff. if you actually like doing endgame stuff in the early game, thats fine, but you dont sound like you’re enjoying that, so age up and go a little slower on the univ. unless you have ocd and you must do it whether you enjoy it or not. in that case you just gotta live with it but it wont be the game’s fault

I only get enjoyment on finishing an age completely and being dominate for my age/level . I like maxing my levels, and I love beating up on rushed bases for bigger bonuses and museum fragments etc...

Just the way I am. It's not end game stuff.. All those university upgrades add up to saved resource time and strengths.

They gave me this stuff that can be accomplished at EA I expect a decent time frame to complete it all. IMO no age should take more than a year, and if you spend money you should be able to shrink that considerably.. To me that is fair.. Right now I will farm museum pieces and upgrade every single university upgrade I have available. if I get bored I quit and I stop supporting the game financially...

 

[Funken_A]

SO HERE'S MY SUGGESTION FOR US MAX BASER'S

Allow players to spend excess gold food and oil on speed ups...You can cap the amount of a speed up that can be purchased to maintain fiscal income for crowners, but for us base maxer's the more you raid the faster one can advance through your age. In the beginning of an age I rarely have left over resources to be able to purchase a speed up because I keep all my builders very busy, but when I am at the end of an Age all I have left is University and I have full resources with nothing to spend it on. Why not allow me to at least 1/2 the time of a build by rewarding workers with more food gold oil to work harder and faster.

 

[oddin]

mate, I can understand how you like to play the game. It took me exactly 2 years and 30€ to reach cold war age. All my defences are maxed global with a couple being atomic. My army is half global and half cold war age. Only max offence cwa players can 5 star my base and imagine that I skipped a whole age (AA)!

By spending soooo much time in EA and money, this brought you frustration and it is understandable. So, maybe, if you changed your playstyle a bit, you would find more enjoyment. Just a suggestion.

 

[pckrn]

dominate for my age/level . I like maxing my levels, and I love beating up on rushed bases for bigger bonuses and museum fragments etc..

im sure you’ve achieved this already.
going any further in EA is really just maxing for the sake of maxing.
actually i think ‘maxing’ traditionally means maxing the buildings and walls and not the univ so we may need to coin a new term for you.
anyway, if this playstyle is really your thing, then try to find enjoyment in it. but know that it is an extreame deviation from the norm so there is bound to be stuff that doesnt fit very well to your playstyle.

 

[Manifesto]

Funken_A , it's YOUR choice to max before you move up so accept the consequences. No one is forcing you or punishing you to play the game. You can easily change the way you play, as others have mentioned, so the control is in your hands.
Now if your base has progressed several thousand years in one year, what's one more year?
Besides, what's another year or two if you truly enjoy the game?

 

[albynos]

I'm a grinder who does spend about $500 a year on this game.. Right now I am desperately trying to finish up my university upgrades so I can move on to industrial age.

new update adds a whole other set of university upgrades to accomplish.

I spent about 60k crowns at the beginning of Enlightenment (January 2018) age to quickly upgrade my offense. I have upgraded everything since that date and I am only left with university upgrades to max out for the level.

My issue is I spent a fair amount of money and its still going to take me well over a year to get through an E.A. This is a turn off this gets old and this may be a reason why I leave the game. I want to advance and I do not like to rush bases. The reason I do not like to rush bases is that in the end I will just have this much more catch up to do with anything that was rushed along.

I am hoping to see a way to reduce the time it takes to upgrade university stuff... There is so much of it and many of the levels take over a week for each upgrade... Since I spent my money on the early part of the Age I am not going to continue to spend more money at the end. (I do accumulate crowns and spend to get them but I save those for the beginning of the next age)... I feel my financial support is more than enough.

The university upgrades take too long IMO

in my opinion the thruth is always in the middle. I understand you don't want to rush bases, but you should find a way in the middle. For example I'm A.E. and fully upgraded the army and the defense buildings, but in my opinion there is no need to fully upgrade the market just because you don't need at this stage a 13 mln capacity. Or again the port is wonderful, but a couple of destinations are fine. The same is for many other buildingd not directly war-related.

 

[MacMarla]

I agree with you 100% Uni is painful. Why does it take longer to play an age than develop it? I hope you dont get bored. Even with speed ups unsure if I will be global by Winter. I am not at all concerned with my building up grades and have been filling my uni for months.I dont max everything but try for about 80% completion.

 

[Funken_A]

I am really tired of people suggesting I do not max out.

I didn't' come here for tips or advice. I don't think I should have to spend a over a year, even after spending money to advance my offense quickly, to complete Enlightenment age

I made a suggestion and I stand by what I have said. IT SHOULD NOT TAKE WELL OVER A YEAR TO MOVE THROUHG A SINGLE AGE. The fact is I play only this game and I grind grind grind, probably grind more then 90% of the players who did or do play and its takes way too %&*%*ing long.

How any of you think the advancement here is not too slow is mind boggling. Or the willingness here to pass up on university or library upgrades just to move up an age and get the snot beat out of you by lesser ages. Yes I beat up on lots if Industrial age bases as a EA guy because of the week ass rushed defenses etc... I get bigger bonuses and I get more museum fragments for beating up on rushed bases. Also I lose a defense maybe once every 2 to 3 weeks while I defend successful constantly

 

[Funken_A]

Funken_A , it's YOUR choice to max before you move up so accept the consequences. No one is forcing you or punishing you to play the game. You can easily change the way you play, as others have mentioned, so the control is in your hands.
Now if your base has progressed several thousand years in one year, what's one more year?
Besides, what's another year or two if you truly enjoy the game?

None of this makes any sense what so ever... Nobody forced me but I do believe a properly balanced game has a reasonable time line to max its individual levels.

Once one more year you ask.. One more year is too long. I will want to move on to a different game at some point.. However If I fee I am advancing at a solid pace I will hang longer and spend more money. If I am forced to spend 6 extra months finishing up my university to be maxed I will become frustrated and go find another game and the developers will lose my modest spending.

the fact is I am sure many many many players would like to be able to advance a little faster and many probably quit because of the slug pace for advancing once you get past gunpowder age

 

[Funken_A]

mate, I can understand how you like to play the game. It took me exactly 2 years and 30€ to reach cold war age. All my defences are maxed global with a couple being atomic. My army is half global and half cold war age. Only max offence cwa players can 5 star my base and imagine that I skipped a whole age (AA)!

By spending soooo much time in EA and money, this brought you frustration and it is understandable. So, maybe, if you changed your playstyle a bit, you would find more enjoyment. Just a suggestion.

NO.. I don't want to be fodder in another age. I max or I quit.. Spending money is not an issue as I don't mind supporting a game I ma playing .. but it should not take over a year to max an AGE IMO

All I was suggestion for developers to consider the time line of maxing bases.


If people want ot rush along and be fodder for more maxed out bases that's fine.. I prefer to be have it all....

Obviously I am very alone but every game like this I have ever play I max the levels... I just expect a reasonable timeline for a level..

RUSH ON LADS, not for me

 

[Funken_A]

im sure you’ve achieved this already.
going any further in EA is really just maxing for the sake of maxing.
actually i think ‘maxing’ traditionally means maxing the buildings and walls and not the univ so we may need to coin a new term for you.
anyway, if this playstyle is really your thing, then try to find enjoyment in it. but know that it is an extreame deviation from the norm so there is bound to be stuff that doesnt fit very well to your playstyle.

NO maxing is maxing every single element that becomes available to you when you upgrade it for that age.. There is no traditional maxing. There is max and there is not maxxed IMO.

You can say you have max walls max buildings, but you cannot say you have max offense or defense unless you maxed the university and librbary because of the amount of bonuses that are added to defense and offense in there

 

[Manifesto]

So what is your motivation to max a game and then move on? What do you get out of it?
I can understand the reasons behind an instant-gratification game like subway surfers or Sonic and tails but this is not that sort of game. Think of it as a lifestyle. Dominations is something you incorporate into your life, not a means to an end. At least, that’s how I look at it.
Besides, what would you do once you’ve maxed everything? Don’t you want to enjoy your maxed farms/caravans? Don’t you want to enjoy your maxed troops rolling other bases?
What spend all that effort and money just to move on? Seems like a waste of all your effort. Just saying.

 

[pckrn]

If people want ot rush along and be fodder for more maxed out bases that's fine.. I prefer to be have it all....

lol my defense is so effective i feel sorry for the attackers. i would also tell you about really ‘having it all’ but as an enlightenment player you wouldnt even understand what it means to not need oil.

and do you really think maxing the enlightenment university will be helpful for your defense? someone who can defeat you now will still be able to defeat you after you have maxed it, even if he doesnt do any upgrading of his own for the whole time. and someone who couldnt defeat you before will be able to defeat you by then.

you say you dont want any advice, and well if you were maxing for your own satisfaction, no one would give any. but its the assertion that you are maxing for strategic reasons that put a big sign above your head ‘this person needs help’

 

[Manifesto]

I'm a grinder who does spend about $500 a year on this game.. Right now I am desperately trying to finish up my university upgrades so I can move on to industrial age.

Industrial? INDUSTRIAL? Why are you bothering with Uni in Industrial?
I remember my time there. A few tanks, lots of German footies and some archers/artillery and I was steamrolling bases all the time.
IMO, you should be able to raid/attack effectively without the Uni and just upgrade it at your leisure.
OK, we shouldn’t be telling you how to play, it’s your game after all, but we’re just trying to show you there are alternatives to a single-minded approach.
If you still want to stick to your strategy that’s fine, but that’s your choice, not a fault of the game.
This is a long term game. Think of it as an investment, not a goal.

 

[LordStark263AC]

Let's be clear on one thing, one of the reasons people talk about rushing through Ages is because of World Wars and XP you bring to World Wars. You could have a Global Age base level 130 and level 130 Enlightenment Age base got the same XP but Global Age player does more damage. It's all about World Wars.

And I am a with you when it comes to maxing out your base. I was 134 Enlightenment amd 182 Industrial but then I rushed it up to Atomic and have no regrets whatsoever.

 

[yemen]

The uni is not designed to be maxed in industrial. It is designed to be an end game addition that players do when they have finished other things. Thus the atomic wonder that shortens university research times; kind of silly if the designers wanted everyone to max the uni before getting there. Having that wonder just to shorten amelia and selassie (the only leaders you can't finish before atomic) would be silly - the limiting factor on both is oil cost instead of research time.