United allies vs Cheater elite

[ivan.]

Do you guys have a vetting process? All it takes is one look at his base when he joins to realize you don't want your alliance associated with players like that.

Also if you're so confident about those max walls being legitimate. I'd love to see the Robber Baron as complete for them. Take a look at all four of our alliances and you won't find max walls like that. Even dbukalski who was one of the first legitimate players to achieve the Robber Baron still doesn't have complete max walls.
And regarding the gold piles, I agree I keep some piles myself but players like those above use a crown hack when clearing forests and gold piles which explains the walls.

If you do end up purging cheats from your alliance then all the respect to you and your other honest players.

 

[ivan.]

To be honest, when you know your up against cheaters you tend be indifferent towards war which is how our players felt when it became obvious. Kinda how we're feeling against this Taiwanese alliance now..

And I can't make any concrete claims since there's no war replay, but the number of 5-stars combined with your short avg attack duration makes it seem like there's foul play. Possibly some of the popular insta-win cheats since the update. At least make it less obvious or something if that's what you guys are doing. But again I don't want to accuse you of demolition cheats etc since we don't have Wold War logs or replay.

 

[ivan.]

You guys are a strong alliance and don't need to rely on cheats to win. Our second team knew going in it'd be tough battle, but cheats weren't something we planned for.

 

[Kevin5201]

Let me make things clear again ..

WE DONT EVER TOLERATE CHEATS

DO U EVER KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE PLAN BEFORE ATTACKING A BASE .. Who to attack ?? When to attack ?? Where to attack ?? Wat happens if an attack fails ??? Who ll attack as a second time .. Our leader dench can 5 star any base .. Tats Wat he did when I misfired on no 3 ..everyone complement others .. Tats our strength .. We had an epic battle with USA elite 1 and every one had a big heart to congratulate us ... We had improved a lot since then

 

[ivan.]

WE DONT EVER TOLERATE CHEATS

Alright, your move then.

''The ball's in your court''

 

[Kevin5201]

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[Kevin5201]

And about cheating could Ivan pls explain 5 wonders from your fellow alliance player having both notre damn and colloseum

 

[Cielmers]

Sorry but if what that ivan told about your alliace avarage time duration is true then your battle plan must be amazing. Please share how do you able to 5 starred a base with short period of time.

 

[ivan.]

Lol is this your answer to your alliance cheating? Gambrinus was a victim to the village switch bug back in May/June if I recall correctly and as compensation CS gave him an extra wonder. Other players received free starter packs etc. He's since quit the forums but lemme dig up his post about it here. One sec.

good catch Eddie, i was wondering if anyone would notice.

i had a issue when i built my GP wonder, and it disappeared right after i started construction on it. i opened a ticket with customers service, and 2 months later they fixed the issue and let me build a 2nd wonder for Classic.

you think i should use a different combination of classic wonders? maybe the coliseum and FC would be good for defense. 2 coliseums would be great, as that's a ton of troops to bog down attackers, plus i think it counts as a defense building. then there's always the option of 2 FC, which would make it nearly impossible to snipe TC star.

Anyway, i picked taking the extra Notre Dame because it's bonus is pretty insignificant, and i since it can't be destroyed, it doesn't add more building for attackers to take down.

Follow that quote link for more context.

Nice try though but a little introspection would help first.

 

[Kevin5201]

Yup exactly as your words the answer is . We as a team first trusted muabdib the same way ..him Saying it was a bug .. When evidence was given we kicked him out ...

 

[Kevin5201]

@ cleimers take myself as an example my first attack lasted for 58 sec which I managed to 1 star due to difficulty in troop deployment.... Tat explains the shortened time duration as a whole .. Account has to be taken into two underplayed attacks too

 

[ivan.]

If you read my posts I never once mentioned Muadbdib. We personally vet all suspicious players that join by either having them back themselves up by crown receipts, gold achievements or CS screenshots like Gambrinus posted etc. A simple ''trust me guys, I'm legit'' doesn't suffice,

If there's still any doubt we kick them anyways. Better not to second guess and tarnish your alliance's reputation.

I suggest you do the same.

 

[Kevin5201]

Sorry but we trust in persons and consider all are genuine unless proved other .. Just because a person has some suspicion he can't be labelled as a cheat .. It has to be proven beyond reasonable doubt .. Even while reporting to customer care substantial evidence needs to be attached .

 

[Kevin5201]

And finally regarding War ...

we won the war because of coordination and meticulous attack on selection .. Take into account sin city factor you have got 4 stars from attacking him .. He gained 10 stars for us even if u had taken tat we won by nearly 20 stars ... Retrospect yourself and inspect your cause for poor coordination and attack ...
Are all our bases maxed out nope .. The fact is see your 4 star and 5 star ratio it was below par .. U even had difficulty in 5 starring our enlightenment age bases .. Tat lead to your failure .. I would have definitely gone back and analysed the cause of defeat rather than blindly calling foul play

 

[ivan.]

Well that's how you got found yourself in this situation now isn't it.
If we followed your advice I might find myself on the opposite side in your position now.

If I were you or your guy's leaders I'd ask all your max wall players to back themselves up with proof. No one, as far as everyone is concerned, is aware of players that legitimately earned complete max walls. That's always been the most blatant sign of cheating.

If they can't them I suggest letting them go. No need to stain your alliance with them if you have a clean and honorable one without then.

 

[ivan.]

My posts were never aimed at whining about losing the war. I didn't participate it in and couldn't care less personally who won. I just find the hypocrisy amusing of your alliance complaining about Taiwan Elite and projecting yourselves as holier than thou or champions of fair play.

And also I already addressed what you wrote above earlier. Now you're just starting to repeat yourself.

 

[Kevin5201]

ha ha two different versions just a week before we got compliments from USA elite 1 stating great battle with persons who played the game fair .. Now from us elite 2 stating a different version ... The same ngan ly , Magnus house were present even then ... U know wat ILL TAKE THE COMPLIMENT FROM USA ELITE 1 as a flower and from you as a thorn.. I'll use the thorn to prick the flower to my shirt and move on ... And u are very well free to report them as cheats to cs ... My version Ll be proved wrong if there are acknowledged by cs .. They are the judges .. Not u , not me

 

[ivan.]

No one in E1 bothered to question you guys just like you assume every max wall player that joins you guys is genuine. From what I heard you guys had a great entertaining and close war, though I'm sure E1 would think differently about it now if they saw this thread lol. So consider that two thorns now? Keep going and you may have yourself a crown.

All it takes is one person to investigate the entrenchment of cheaters and your kingdom crumbles. And your just here rationalizing them as a defense.

 

[Kevin5201]

Evidence , evidence .. Hard evidence needed .. u have pointed is vague and can't hold even cs won't accept it ..WE R NOW IN WAR VS TOP DOMINATORS .. LOOK AT THEIR BASE MAJORITY ARE MAXED OUT .. U mean to say all are cheats ????We had chalked a plan for everyone .. We didn't complain or whine nor called them cheaters .Hard evidence needed to say it .. They r in top 5 for long time . Just u can't point fingers at ever one ... When an allegation is levelled it's the duty of the person who levels the allegation to prove it not the defender ..

 

[ivan.]

Are you're seriously wondering whether TD has cheated? Of course they do. Nexon simply sanctions players first but doesn't bother reverting their crown hacked max walls. Players here have been asking them to do so since forever. Regardless, that doesn't make it okay or legitimate in your eyes however, and that's why they have the reputation they do. Maybe you guys will follow suit?

And as much as I hate pathetic TD for cheating I could care less if they do. They aren't on the forums whining about others cheating.