Bastions 7.1 Update - coming soon!

[~Kratos~]

I agree^, you really need to work on your writing. Might be time to spend that money somewhere else? :/

OT, I will just respond to the stars part: I think 5 stars in wars should be reserved to really great attackers, I do not think it is a problem if most of attacks are 2-4 stars. Much more variety to the war outcomes. Every war win depending on few seconds of difference by who taps RPG and troop tactic deployment faster is all but anything interesting or fun. It's dull.

 

[Chadwicke]

Your correct ,I don't really care about a proper message to pass a lit class.and I see you think I'm talking about the damage reduction , but infact I did want that changed but tapered down not cut and more concerning is the duration reduction to 9 seconds. A proper response about the over power would have been same duration then 20-50% reduction if still time wars then drop the protection completely then if still time war then mess with the other stats . You will see I'm right and then because multiple fields we're changed the right balance will take much longer to find. I'm thinking of all players in the game I be fine but I remember clearly what happened at stage 3 of the rebalance lost a lot of long to friends and enemies that week it will be happening again people will be frustrated they can't be effective vs the cost of the new version of the game only long time players know what I'm talking about but unfortunately alot have left or Don't play like they used to since the constant changes where most of the changes were not well conceived.

 

[~Kratos~]

There's something wrong with your thought process. The best attackers of my clan were 5-starring high end 3D bases regularly even before the appearance of AR earlier this year. Just not at crazy 1-2 minute times like now. It was possible even with the rebalance, just very difficult, like it should be, for a maxed or near maxed base's defense. I do not see why people think we should have regular 5-star attacks on maxed bases. If that is the case then what is the point of investing time (or money) in defense at all? Delay the win by 5 seconds? Not a great pay-off of your work.

And if that makes people leave the game like you say, then I am concerned about the reasons those people played the game in the first place. If you want easy wins all the time, then why play a strategy game that (ideally) requires great depth of thought and planning for victory? Better go play something dumber.

 

[Chadwicke]

And how many cheating max bases are there now ? Was 28 now it's over 200 Asian players I lead an top 100 for years now we play for fun as I said wait and see

 

[Manifesto]

How does the cheating bases fit into the AR discussion? I imagine they're doing just fine with or without the AR.
Or are you throwing cheaters into your argument about your comments on the game's demise? This would be a different argument, yes?
As for your comments about the duration: like any tactic, the AR is supposed to be a short boost/advantage. 5-7 seconds is plenty of time for troops to take out a focal point on the base or to overpower a collection of defenses.
A duration of 9 seconds is more than enough to get the momentary job done. imo.
Relax for now. Save your voice for after the update, THEN maybe you can 'tell us so'.

 

[Manifesto]

If you want easy wins all the time, then why play a strategy game that (ideally) requires great depth of thought and planning for victory?
So true. Something I question all the time.

 

[Chadwicke]

Missing the point, you have to beat them , and alot more of them now how many players in a team that could take a332 in the top 20 non cheating teams that would be 1/3-1/2 the team in a the 25-50 1/4 of the team and below that 1-2 players per team the point is as that cheat continues to develop more and more then many teams will many of them and you have to take them .this is just one of the many issues at hand .

 

[Uhuru]

Manifesto, but this topic is not about AR (This is how you imagine, because you care about AR.) This topic is about the another one update, and many like me, this whole series of recent updates is not happy. Nexon hired a man who set the task to shake out of the game (that is, of us) as much money, so he shakes! This is an mess with the rebalance, with constant throwing from side to side, these mountains of unnecessary stuff (- junk that has nothing to do with the strategic game), and other things that are written on this forum... Nothing good for most players it does not bring and will not bring! But this time and effort of the development team could be spent on something else! The only hope is that Nexon will turn from this vicious path.

 

[Chadwicke]

Exactly my point of most posts across several threads in the forum C's Facebook and Twitter. Those who have played from the beginning or close to it know this game is in a nose dive compared to 2016/2017

 

[Chadwicke]

Exactly my point of most posts across several threads in the forum C's Facebook and Twitter. Those who have played from the beginning or close to it know this game is in a nose dive compared to 2016/2017

 

[Manifesto]

Sorry but this topic is about AR, not just about AR.
Lots of other people are talking about AR and I'm responding to those people, yet you single me out?
This topic is about this one update, which includes the AR, yet you go on a tirade about the unbalance of the game and the general state of the game or a Nexon employee that you're not happy with. That has less to do with this topic than talking about the AR and you accuse me of going off topic?
What, exactly, is your motivation? Or should I say malfunction?
If you can't make a coherent point, please just move on.
Pretty please.

 

[Manifesto]

Uhuru
The presence of such things as AR in the game deprives me of choice, as it devalues everything else
I need to ask a simple question. I rarely use the AR and most of the time my regular army is still winning as they've done before. Now you say the AR devalues everything else, so my question is:
Exactly how has the introduction of the AR devalued your existing tools?

So now I have to as well as all spam bazookas and AR.
Why? Were you not winning battles with existing tools before AR came along? Can you not do so now, without using the AR at all?
I'm only asking because I'm curious to know.

 

[Uhuru]

I'm not saying you're not personally in the subject, Manifesto. It was a turn of phrase. I'm just defending from your attacks a different point of view expressed here, which is also on topic.

 

[Manifesto]

LOL. I don't recall 'attacking' you, per se.
But, ok, if you say so.

 

[~Kratos~]

This topic is indeed about AR, that is the biggest problem addressed in this update so obviously that makes up the bulk of the discussion.

 

[~Kratos~]

Manifesto Until the nerf is in effect those statements are actually true, it does devalue everything else. At the moment it's not about winning, that's a given, but rather about winning every battle in less than 1:30 or even 1 minute. Otherwise loss is guaranteed by time tiebreaker. (obviously this doesn't apply to MP but nobody cares about AR and MP, that's not where the problem was)

Anyway, but this is going to change with this update, so not sure what he's on about.

 

[Uhuru]

Nature strives for maximum efficiency in everything . If there is an effective AR + spam Bazooka, why use something less effective? It is devalue because it is no longer needed..

 

[Manifesto]

Some people make me want to go out in the woods and scream.
AR devalues something because it's no longer needed? If the original item is still effective then it still has value, and it's still your choice to use them. It's also your choice to use something else, despite your ridiculous claim that nexon 'forced' you to use the AR and bazooka spam.
AND, to add to the ridiculousness, you're telling everyone we didn't need the AR at all, nexon should get rid of it.
Here's a solution: Don't use the AR. Dont spam bazookas. Choose to use your original troops and make them valuable again.

ps: I've changed my mind. You're right, your troops are devalued. I don't know what l was thinking. I guess I'm just tired. Tired of wanting people to see beyond their negativity to alternate solutions. Maybe some day banging your head against the proverbial wall will actually change things. Or maybe you'll start feeling better from the effort and the resulting numbness.
Either way, enjoy your AR bazooka spam while it's still effective. Then it's back to those faithful troops, waiting patiently to feel useful again.

 

[QuébecGlory]

Thanks for the heads up on the upcoming changes, it's always appreciated, no matter if we agree or not with these changes. Most of us adapt and move on.

But... can you please have a bettre idea of when it's coming? Something else than coming soon? How about: We are finalizing graphics, we expect this to be done in a week... or the update has been sent to android and apple, it's in their hands, it usually takes 2-3 days for approval.

Players have stopped playing wars, have gone to other alliances or have quit the game altogether. Coming soon is not enough. If it's a month away, tell us. Tell us something. The more the better.

 

[JustAnotherPlayer]

My Momma always said that life's like a box of chocolates. You never know what you gonna get. And you'll never be able to please everyone. And lighten up,Francis.