Big round of Applause to those crying 'nerf the French and thier training blessing'

MadFury

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Your lack of understanding never seems to stop surprising me. It's because of you and those like you who kept fishing for a French nerf that now everyone got a training blessing nerf instead. Which is exactly what this thread was about. 1 point for reading comprehension there little buddy. And I am sure those extra 3 troops from the alliance gate are a massive op inducing game changer, and the over all reason why anyone would make the big bad switch (that was sarcasm before you fail to understand). As for heavy cav I hope that's a joke. They've been nerfed 3 times and don't make much more of a difference than regular tanks at this point. Now go complain about the Roman 10% troop space so they can nerf something else we all need.
 

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I really don't understand how this is a French specific nerf at all. Seems French 20% reduced training time remains, only change is a global one where we all now pay more for a blessing that lasts longer, is less effective, but includes factory troops. The training time will will be globally reduced for everyone equally, with French still at an advantage. Nothing changes in terms of balance, just everyone will take a little more time training on TB.
Tend to agree - same points as I made in another post.

MadFury: how does the training blessing 'rebalance' (aka 'nerf' to you) affect the French any more than other nations ??! (please don't reply - it's a rhetorical question)
 

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I'm not here to ask for the option of the USA Elite alliance. You can all come complain here together. However I doubt any of you started playing as the French, just switch to them like everyone else and never went through that pain in the *** growth stages you have to go through as the French. I don't know when 20% faster training speed became 'traning half as fast' like some of these imbeciles were claiming. This post won't last long before it gets deleted and I get banned again. But at least we know who the rest of us can blame. As for perspective here's some, the French are the only nation with no offensive or economic bonuses what so ever. They have the only unique which gets more expensive in terms of train time, troop space and resources. And that 20% (which used to be 15% before we got a much needed buff) hardly made up for all the negatives. In particular for the rest of us who don't spend all day playing.

Lol madfury ur about to get owned. Unlike u.. I was smart enough to look at what the top leaderboard players were using. 2 of the top 3 were french. I didnt know what made them better but i know to look at successful people

But i know YOU are a bandwagon frenchy because if u were a french player from the beginning you would know something reeeaaally interesting

In the beginning french bonus + tb = INSTANT army build. The training time for an entire army of cannons was 0 seconds. Then they nerfed tb so that french training became a devastating 40 seconds ;)

I was french when they nerfed training from instant to 40sec

I was french when they nerfed pure heavy cav wiping out bases

I was french when they are now nerfing tb again and raiders

Every one of those nerfs was deserved and saw them coming from mile away. So then theres no stress when the announcement comes. I still have my first 600 crown nation change available. Too bad for u that u dont. U have my permission to commence gnashing of teeth and wailing of the woman folk

And while u and your newb possy b.itch and moan about this new nerf. Im laughing all the way to the bank with my most luxurious magnificent walls.

I already know which nation will be the best and ill be laughing at u when u make the wrong choice again. Always one step ahead of u. U payed 600 crowns to go french months after i was using them. Ull pay 1000 crowns to pick the wrong nation. Have fun being bad at the game :) ive heard romans are nice this time of year u should give them a try.

I was gonna say some more stuff that amuses me but those things could clue u in to what nation to pick next. Well they would clue u in if u were capable of parcing subtle information. So ud remain clueless. But then others might figure things out and in about 3 mos ud catch on and benefit. Id rather u floundered some more. And in 2 weeks we can have some cheese and win at ur i quit speech topic :)

Also dont be jelly because the best forum members joined usa elite ;) were playing the game strategising on line chat sharing ideas and information while u hang out in ur alliance being the big fish in a small pond. With no one to build ideas with. fumbling in the dark because ur ego is too big. so u gonna stay where u feel important
 
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"And that was my point exactly. In trying to get France nerfed they succeeded in getting the training blessing nerfed again. That 20% additional isn't the massive advantage these guys were making it out to be. It was after all for those who aren't mathematically inclined only 20% faster. Only 1 additional attack for every 5 any other nation made. "

I enjoy this example if how stupid madfury is.

French train an army in 50 seconds
Everyone else trains the same army in 5 minutes

That means french are attacking 6x faster then all other nations. That is 600% fastee training not 20%

Not only does he suck at math. He doesnt see how op that is. Say it with me madfury. Per...spec...tive

Get some
 

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French train an army in 50 seconds - Everyone else trains the same army in 5 minutes
To be fair to MadFury I'm not sure you're comparing apples with apples. Your 50secs/600% is fine for the French only if other nations don't use the TB.
 

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man, this really struck a nerve with you didn't it? I'm not sure what kind of degrading acted you needed to preform to get the crowns you used to jump on the frenchie bandwagon, but you'll have to do it again when you switch to roman or whatever the next nation of the month you choose.
 

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Its 5 mins for other nations to train their raider army right? If thats correct. Then french 50 seconds is 600% faster. Ive never been anythinng but french so i dont know what a normal train time is for others. Ive heard 5 mins a lot
 
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Also for all the lurkers out there. Or any madfury alliance members. If ur half inactive alliance goes even more ghost town on u after the nerfs. We have usa elite 1-4 ranging in medal count from 800 all the way to the top. Come on over if u want an alliance with more backbone than weepy madfury seems to have. Well show u the ropes, ull have a stronger gameplan. Enjoy what the game has to offer and join our 200 members on line chat

Dont worry about the usa part. Im polish. Its just a game. And the games more fun when ur with the best legit players talking strategy. If u speak english then ur good to go
 
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Are you saying 5mins with or without the TB? Cos 5 mins with a 77% reduction is down to 69secs by my calculations.
 
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Okay guys, madfury just sucks energy we need to help devs make it right. They aren't bad folks, but after they failed with those 'offers' it was inevitable. I've posted a list of prefferred features in their topic, so let's try to push it ;)

France with fair 30% speed up still would be cool. Buffed tanks vs walls also and soldiers with range. May be me and dbuk could come up with 7m gold/hr loot strategy and returning armies if we had that ))) which would be more fun than raiders and require more skill.
 

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I don't know where you took math and frankly I'm not interested. But when 20% becomes 600% and you have the audacity to call me an idiot then I'm at a loss for words. Training blessing gives everyone 77% if you have the library research and you can add an additional 20% to that if you are French for a total of 97% quicker vs 77% quicker. I rest my case now go beat your head against the wall somewhere else.
 

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These USA Elite guys are lost as can be. They are claiming that the French train armies 600% quicker or that some how I'm a 'bandwagon Frenchy'.... I don't even remember seeing any of them when I started posting. So while I've been French since the game came out I can say I don't know what dumbalaski or his equally challenged friends are talking about. However my point was and still is simple. The training blessing was nerfed as a result of him and his equally challenged friends campaigning to get the French nerfed. The TB nerf is a direct result of thier constant over exaggerations about the French's supposed super advantage.
 

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Lol does this guy have any clue what he's talking about or how to stay on topic???
 

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I must disagree with madfury...Yes french train armies a ton faster than other nations, raider-sapper army in 50 seconds is way faster than waiting 4-5 minutes as a non-french civilization for a raider-sapper army. And it's not exaggerated...french can climb you medals faster than any other civilization, meaning bigger league, more loot. I played British before and the unique was good, but fell off when the best tactic shifts to raider spam.
 

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Since you aren't one of these USA elite half-wits I'll explain. As I also explained this in another post. I never said this was a French specific nerf. What I said was that 'As a result we can now all enjoy yet another nerf to the training blessing'. Since it's because of the the supposed massive French training advantage these guys have made it out it be, that the developers have chosen to reduce its effectiveness. So by crying loud enough about one thing we all got hammered with something else non of us wanted.
 

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I have no clue what you're talking about either. You and your friends can't seem to stay on topic. And yes I've only ever played as the French period...
 

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DestroyerArcher I can handle your disagreement on the grounds that it 'might' feel that way. We can't argue with the fact that 20% quicker is after all only 20% quicker. You will have to admit that this guy claiming its 600% quicker is delirious. Consider that at 100% quicker your army would train instantly.
 

MadFury

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And you would be right Ravenlord. Polish math must be different than math elsewhere.
 

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this must have really got under your skin. just admit that French had a huge bonus compared to the rest of the nations, and soon they'll lose that bonus and be much more in line with the rest of the nations and you don't want a nation on par with everyone else.
 
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