British or Korean archers?

[Hunter Killer]

Has anyone played with both British and Korean nations and can offer some insights about which special unit archer is most efficient (+1 range and +15% dps or +40% dps)?

It's important to have played both to have an objective idea. I hear people saying brits are best or koreans are best but most of them have only been brits or koreans, never both, so are lacking an overall vantage point.

I guess once you think you have the best unit, it's hard to switch nations to test another one, with the risk of having to change back. So if anyone has done the test and played with both, I'd be interested in getting some feedback

 

[Ravenlord]

I'm in IA with Brits and I love the archers - especially for taking down defending troops - tanks and all. In another 4-5 months I should be in IA with my other Korean account - I'll update you then!

 

[Hunter Killer]

4-5 months? Not sure I'd still be playing this game by then

Do us a favour, just crown your way up to IA on your Korean account so you can brief us. The community will be thankful for your dedication!

 

[Hunter Killer]

How many archers do you use and how many do you get back after battle? Have you tried any other archers than brits before, even if it's not Koreans? Just trying to get a feel of how much improvement British archers add to the overall army survival rate and speed to walk through the base.

 

[Ravenlord]

I play as the Brits, Germans and Romans and tend to use the same type of army for 5 starring (with a few tweaks here and there): 5-6 footsies, 30-40 archers, 3-6 tanks, 2-4 artillery. (every now and then I'll try a healer but I find them more trouble than they're worth - sometimes I'll lose the same number of troops with them!). My 5 star percentage is pretty good with this composition though not all my battles are 5 star - but let's not go into that!

Anyway, on average I lose 8-15 archers - maybe more if they split into groups and wander too close to catapults - but I expect to lose them and they're cheap and easy to train. If I lose more then too bad - I play casually so I'm less concerned with saving my troops than getting a max win. ''He lost the battle but won the war ....'' kind of thing.

I can honestly say the difference in troops lost doesn't really change much per nation - BUT, maybe that's because of the nations I'm using? I have more archers with my Romans so they do more total damage?
When the Germans have a victory boost they're doing almost as much damage as the Brits so that's also an unfair comparison ....?
Oops, I fear I may not have been as helpful as I intended to be - sorry!

I can tell you this: being on the receiving end of a Korean EA or IA army with a similar composition to mine is pretty impressive to behold. They may not have the range of the Brits but my defenders die in a quick - and spectacular - blaze of glory. (hence me trying a new nation as the Koreans - but also because I love Bibimbap! )

 

[Ravenlord]

Do us a favour, just crown your way up to IA on your Korean account so you can brief us. The community will be thankful for your dedication!.

Sure - no prob. Just send me that link to unlimited crowns ..... (PM of course)

 

[Hunter Killer]

Great feedback. Thank you!

So we're missing your experience with Koreans to have the full picture.

 

[Hunter Killer]

I left the link on a card in your wallet. It's a 16-digit code that you need to input through the app store.

 

[Ravenlord]

No ..... no, that can't be it ..... I checked and they want to exchange money for them. Stupid App store.

 

[Aurelius...]

I agree. That would be useful. Maybe 300 from cs would help?

 

[Jasonian Empire]

Koreans seem to be incredibly popular. I fight them a lot; both on attack and defense. Since I hit medieval age, they only guy (gal?) I've had 5-star my base was playing Koreans. I dropped a couple horse raiders on his base to bleed medals from myself and pick up a couple thousand gold/food. Well, this guy was having none of that. He stormed my base in revenge, marched all the way around it, and rolled it up like a window shade. Made off with like 250k of both food and gold.

It was pretty awesome, actually. 8D

 

[Genyl]

I shouldn't really answer as I have only played with koreans up to GP but I will give my theoretical version if that is ok.

I use armies with a lot of korean archers. They are powerful against defenders and weak against catapults. I would say koreans are better against while the british range is better to shoot over walls and I've heard they outrange towers as well? Towers are a real problem for koreans too as sometimes a few die trying to attack a tower.

I would say both units are more or less equally powerful. However I find the british 10% extra loot more interesting than the korean one (1 extra tactic, 10% back of raided resources) which are a bit lacklustre. The extra tactic is great but it is more expensive in terms of food

 

[Genyl]

Unless you are maxed out of course

 

[Ravenlord]

Doncha just hate that ..... and love it at the same time ?!!!

 

[Hunter Killer]

If you play in a medal range where you drop medals on purpose, the only armies you'll face will be raiders armies. So I'm not too surprised no one 5-star you on a regular basis

Yes at the moment, I'm thinking Koreans archers > British archers for 5-starring army but I can't be sure until I can test both. Ideally someone else would have test it before and will save me some crowns.

 

[Hunter Killer]

Yes food is not a problem lol. I'm maxed out 7.5M food all the time, don't know what to do with it. Wish I could give it to a food bank for charity. Everything I have left to upgrade require gold and oil.

 

[Hunter Killer]

You'll still need cannons in your army (if that's available in your age) to take down towers and catapults quickly. that should save you some archers.

British archers have range 5, same as cannons. Towers have range 7 and catapult range 10. You won't outrange towers, it would be completely overpowered otherwise.

 

[Hunter Killer]

Actually, if we have 2 volunteers, each one playing with British and Koreans, with same age unit and same environment (e.g. with or without Versailles) we can run the following tests:

1. Go into solo campaign and pick a common battle (e.g. Viking conquests > Dublin)
2. Deploy one archer and rally on tower, making sure no other defense interfere
3. Time how long it takes to take down the building
4. If archer dies before tower, repeat by adding one more archer
5. Go back to step 3

With a controlled environment, we should be able to see which unit is more efficient. Either shooting earlier with further range or shooting closer with higher damage.

Then we can redo the test by adding a catapult firing at the same time (e.g. Viking conquests > Paris).

Any volunteers who want to give it a try and save me 2000 crowns?

 

[13utterfly]

i already try british and korea industrial age.. 2 month ago im british and now im korea..
and i can say if british archer > korea archer..
+1 range and 15% damage better than +40% damage, and im thinking want switch back to british later..
this just my oppinion..
i cant tell anymore because my english so bad haha..

 

[Hunter Killer]

Awesome. Thanks for the feedback. And your English is good!