Do not fix ar
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{[Fresh]}Kratos
You like wars, good for you, hope it brings you happiness and success. Not everyone shares your view, though.
An uneducated mind can learn, a closed mind refuses to.
You like wars, good for you, hope it brings you happiness and success. Not everyone shares your view, though.
An uneducated mind can learn, a closed mind refuses to.
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Just finished 2 hours of binge raiding. I see loot,I smash. Plenty of orange walled scalps today. Factory troops totally maxed. Thank you so the much for your resources. No need to thank me for the long peace treaty. It's my pleasure. Hope to smash your pretty base again when I'm done watching movie. Tee Hee~
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How do you manage to stretch 7 ARs into 2 hours? I usually burn them in about 45 minutes.
there is something extremely satisfying knocking out bases loaded on blessings and loot knowing they probably havent been hit in weeks
there is something extremely satisfying knocking out bases loaded on blessings and loot knowing they probably havent been hit in weeks
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I use tactics and training blessings with Soviet power plant and winter of ages blessing. And i crown my troops. No time to waste. Full steam ahead. Many bases to kill. I'm left with 25 pieces of wall to turn to orange. I'm sure I'll finish before my winter of ages expires in 2 and a half day's time. Btw,I don't why peeps are whining about. I really enjoy this game in my own way. Just make the most of it. Before coming to this game a year and a half ago,I used to war everyday in another online strategy game similar to this but in real time. The game is now dead after 6 years of fun. The game had its usual armchair generals,crybabies,cheaters,hackers,wannabe tough guys etc etc. It was fun while it lasted.
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Btw,I do not use 7 ARs. Only 4 ARs,sometimes 3 and I only use 17 rpgs. The strength of the troops that i use are closely connected to my museum artifacts.
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It's funny, and very revealing, that people started off complaining about the AR and now the conversations seem to have swung towards complaining about so-so attackers. How dare these average players beat high level players. Unconscionable!
Yes, very revealing.
Yes, very revealing.
Manifesto seriously?
you put a comment on a post explaining the very thing
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...the-ar-fix-broke-the-game?p=650963#post650963
and variations like ‘more than 5 times’ or ‘667%’ or ‘more than 600%’ have been used so many times over all the ar threads and youve been posting on them without even understanding the issue?
you put a comment on a post explaining the very thing
https://forum.nexonm.com/forum/nexo...the-ar-fix-broke-the-game?p=650963#post650963
and variations like ‘more than 5 times’ or ‘667%’ or ‘more than 600%’ have been used so many times over all the ar threads and youve been posting on them without even understanding the issue?
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Well,these types exist in every game. Nature of the beast. I just call them deluded armchair generals back in my old game. I learned to steer clear of these highly toxic homo sapiens.
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All my walls are orange except for one piece. Gonna take a snapshot of that last piece. Gonna take a 24 hrs break from this game. Or any game. Tee Hee~
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pckrn
No offense, but I generally don't put much faith in player generated figures. More often than not they're driven by emotion. Your post explains the mechanics but fuels the imagination of players.
260% dps is still just 260%. A speed boost makes the unit fire faster but each shot is not 3 times as powerful, yet lots of people are now complaining about a 600% boost. If a unit fired 3 times a second then it would have a 600% dps boost. I'm not aware of a unit doing that, except maybe the Chinese shooter?
{[Fresh]}Kratos
I'll never have a maxed AR, that's for space age.
ps: pckrn , you remembered my post from 2 weeks ago? Personally, I don't dwell on old posts, you're not stalking me, are you?
No offense, but I generally don't put much faith in player generated figures. More often than not they're driven by emotion. Your post explains the mechanics but fuels the imagination of players.
260% dps is still just 260%. A speed boost makes the unit fire faster but each shot is not 3 times as powerful, yet lots of people are now complaining about a 600% boost. If a unit fired 3 times a second then it would have a 600% dps boost. I'm not aware of a unit doing that, except maybe the Chinese shooter?
{[Fresh]}Kratos
I'll never have a maxed AR, that's for space age.
ps: pckrn , you remembered my post from 2 weeks ago? Personally, I don't dwell on old posts, you're not stalking me, are you?
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Manifesto if you dont trust players, why would you ask nate to explain the figure? you wouldnt believe his answer anyway.
anyway, i wasnt the first person to claim that ar boosts dps way more than the info screen suggests, and i dont put much faith in player generated figures either. so i went and saw for myself a bazooka doing 2x dmg per shot and 3.3x fire rate to confirm (from another players experiment video because i dont have ar lvl 4 yet). which many people have done for themselves btw, so the figure has come from many different sources, and its not just me fueling people’s imagination. if you really thought everyone was citing the figure solely because of me, i dont know if thats flattering for me or insulting for everyone. but after all this time, you still havent tried to see for yourself, or even asked for a proof until now. why didnt you ask for a proof 2 weeks ago? could it be because you’re interested enough in taking part in a discussion but not interested enough to try to find out what is being discussed?
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1. i have very good memory
2. i remembered my own post from 2 weeks ago. you just happened to be there when i went to get the link for it... but then.. even if it was someone else’s post, i probably would remember it if i was thinking about something related to that post
anyway, i wasnt the first person to claim that ar boosts dps way more than the info screen suggests, and i dont put much faith in player generated figures either. so i went and saw for myself a bazooka doing 2x dmg per shot and 3.3x fire rate to confirm (from another players experiment video because i dont have ar lvl 4 yet). which many people have done for themselves btw, so the figure has come from many different sources, and its not just me fueling people’s imagination. if you really thought everyone was citing the figure solely because of me, i dont know if thats flattering for me or insulting for everyone. but after all this time, you still havent tried to see for yourself, or even asked for a proof until now. why didnt you ask for a proof 2 weeks ago? could it be because you’re interested enough in taking part in a discussion but not interested enough to try to find out what is being discussed?
p.s.
1. i have very good memory
2. i remembered my own post from 2 weeks ago. you just happened to be there when i went to get the link for it... but then.. even if it was someone else’s post, i probably would remember it if i was thinking about something related to that post
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I've seen that figure before, including the poll you created, but never questioned it before because l put it down, rightly or wrongly, to the usual scaremongering/emotion response. I finally asked for clarification because l was losing patience seeing this nonsensical figure bandied about.
In any case, I'm sure there are plenty of people following you because, even though we don't always agree, your posts are always intelligent, and l seriously doubt the people interested in you are gullible.
Ultimately l prefer to get my comfirmation from playing the game, not from the forum. My AR is level 3 and l dont think it's as OP as people think. I used a max of 4 in a few experimental matches and they were quick wins but I'm generally winning matches around 100secs and usually without any tactics, so the use of 4 didn't blow me away. As a personal rule, l never carry more than 2 or 3 of any type of tactic. Any more is a waste.
Regardless of whether l used 4 or 7, isn't a good, quick win the goal of the game? Especially for mp, so you can get back to raiding as soon as possible?
And I'm always interested in a discussion if l can bring a different or unexplored view to the discussion. It's sad that people often react to my 'saying something different' instead of reading what's being said. Especially the people who only care about wars. They seem less tolerant of the mp players than vice versa, yet all this time no one has asked for an AR nerf just for wars while leaving mp alone (if that's even possible). People who war seem to have no other vision.
Still won't stop me exploring other viewpoints.
I've seen that figure before, including the poll you created, but never questioned it before because l put it down, rightly or wrongly, to the usual scaremongering/emotion response. I finally asked for clarification because l was losing patience seeing this nonsensical figure bandied about.
In any case, I'm sure there are plenty of people following you because, even though we don't always agree, your posts are always intelligent, and l seriously doubt the people interested in you are gullible.
Ultimately l prefer to get my comfirmation from playing the game, not from the forum. My AR is level 3 and l dont think it's as OP as people think. I used a max of 4 in a few experimental matches and they were quick wins but I'm generally winning matches around 100secs and usually without any tactics, so the use of 4 didn't blow me away. As a personal rule, l never carry more than 2 or 3 of any type of tactic. Any more is a waste.
Regardless of whether l used 4 or 7, isn't a good, quick win the goal of the game? Especially for mp, so you can get back to raiding as soon as possible?
And I'm always interested in a discussion if l can bring a different or unexplored view to the discussion. It's sad that people often react to my 'saying something different' instead of reading what's being said. Especially the people who only care about wars. They seem less tolerant of the mp players than vice versa, yet all this time no one has asked for an AR nerf just for wars while leaving mp alone (if that's even possible). People who war seem to have no other vision.
Still won't stop me exploring other viewpoints.
Manifesto the ar makes a bigger difference the tougher the base you attack. so it mostly blew away people who war, or play in high medals in mp. anyway, a lot of times i do like to see you exploring other viewpoints although sometimes it feels less like ‘saying no when everyone says yes’ and more like ‘saying no for the sake of saying no’. still, im not gonna ask you to stop lol
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That's not true I regularly shoot down maxed bombers with my lv 5 SAMs, lv 6 anti air, and lv 12 towers
And someone using 3-4 bombers ( that all die) to steal 10-15k oil in a MP battle is not the same as a lv300, 3D coalition base getting 5 starred in 1 min 30 s.
And someone using 3-4 bombers ( that all die) to steal 10-15k oil in a MP battle is not the same as a lv300, 3D coalition base getting 5 starred in 1 min 30 s.
