Do you like new artifacts from the museum?

Do you like new artifacts from the museum?

  • 0-1

    Votes: 22 56.4%
  • 2

    Votes: 3 7.7%
  • 3

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • 4

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • 5

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • 6

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 7

    Votes: 1 2.6%
  • 8

    Votes: 2 5.1%
  • 9

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Total voters
    39

Lordzeus

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From 0 to 10, how much you like them?

Jewelry and ceramics artifacts were for resources obtained in battle and from the bases. Now they are mixed with building bonuses which I don't want. Since the last update I have sold them all. I haven't found a good one.

If you have found a good one please share it.
 
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gxe1134

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I think what's going to happen is two things: First, they'll eventually enable the Museum for wars. That leads to the second: We'll have one set of artifacts for daily multiplayer battles, and then swap in a second set for wars. That's my theory anyway.

This will create the incentive to add more storage slots (via crowns), and also to make people perform expeditions non-stop (to get supplies for upgrading). All of that leads towards more money for Nexon.
Anyway, just my theory. It's still early days with the new artifact mix, so we'll have to see how it pans out especially with a big rebalancing of troops coming soon?
 

pckrn

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im not the one who voted 10, but i have replaced both my jewelry artifacts with new ones
 

Centurion96

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I was lucky to find two excellent jewelry artifacts before the update (combined +130% oil looted - oil bonus and all resource bonus combined). Other categories (weapon, armor, pottery) were garbage even before the update.

After the update, all artefact categories are garbage. Their only purpuse is to get blueprints to upgrade any good artefacts got prior to the update.
 

FroggyKilla

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3/10. The new Jewelry and Pottery bonuses should just go to Weapons and Armor. Though anything that would allow for a huge reduction to Mortar Damage is something I’m looking out for. Honestly would prefer Mortar Damage Reduction over Attack Helicopter Attack.
 

TizJourney

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This change brings HUGE UNFAIR advantage for old player base over new ones. Many dedicated old players have artifacts with HUGE bonuses to oil/all resources which almost non obtainable now by largely increased trait pool in jewelry category.
 

SharkyFinn

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I don't know why you think they're "non obtainable." Very early on I got what I considered to be two great jewlery artificats that give resource bonuses in the first couple of tiers, but the rest of the tiers were useless, so I was never going to unlock them. However, I just picked up a new one that beats one of them and it provides bonuses in the other tiers that are actually useful. I'm upgrading it now and as soon as I get it past my current one, I plan on swapping it in. What's done is done and I'm not complaining that new players have a HUGE UNFAIR advantage since they're getting artifiacts that are useful across all tiers instead of having wasted resources on ones that are stunted.
 

yemen

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The odds on getting good resource bonuses are much lower now. I consider that a disadvantage. Most of the other possibilities there now are minor junk in my opinion.
 

T4TiFooS

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Iv opposite opinion, and I think this is why they designed these new artifacts!
By this new change each jewelry and each pottery can give us another space for weapon /armor in the exhibition If they include offense /defense benefits!
it the other words, means we can exhibit 4 active armor /weapon artifacts in the Museum exhibition!
For this purpose need to activate those offensive jewelry & pottery artifacts when you wanna go for attacks and activate those defensive of them when you wanna have more powerful defense!

However it can be good, but it has a lot of negative effects in the game that makes the game & MP harder, and as they are hidden powers in the game it makes the MP double harder more!

Briefly, this is another way toward P2W project!
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SharkyFinn

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This is what I mean by stunted. I've been using this jewelry artifact for a while now. IMO, there's no point in unlocking the remaining tiers.

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I had a second set of Garakji Rings that had All Resources in the first tier and Gold Resources in tiers 2 and 3. I also had no plans on ever unlocking tiers 4 and 5.

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Last night, I sold my second set of Garakji rings and replaced it with this one that I picked up a few days ago. It gets more resources overall and I actually have a reason to eventually unlock all the tiers.

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I also picked up this new one yesterday. I haven't started upgrading or using it yet, but it's the most 11% tiers I've gotten since the museum came out.

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yemen

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SharkyFinn The all resources ones you have are much worse than the best I have from before, so that would be the difference. My baseline for throwing them away was 30-35% all resources, with another 10-15% oil looted at least. My best is a 40% all resources with a 15% oil boost and a 15% NTG boost as well, plus a junk line at the end. Every account has at least two jewelry with at least 45% oil looted available when maxed, plus some food/gold/ntg bonuses for the other categories.

I would have probably thrown away all of the jewelry in your screenshots almost immediately.

That Songye shield has only one category I would consider good - HT damage. And that is the only one at one percent. No amount of boost from an artifact will convince me to use any of those 4 units. So trash as well, in spite of a fantastically lucky roll on the percents side. And that is my complaint about all these extra categories being added - the odds of getting something good with good boosts is ridiculous.
 

oddin

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agree Yemen. The last artifact is 100% for the bin. Nothing that will really help in battle
 

SharkyFinn

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SharkyFinn The all resources ones you have are much worse than the best I have from before, so that would be the difference. My baseline for throwing them away was 30-35% all resources, with another 10-15% oil looted at least. My best is a 40% all resources with a 15% oil boost and a 15% NTG boost as well, plus a junk line at the end. Every account has at least two jewelry with at least 45% oil looted available when maxed, plus some food/gold/ntg bonuses for the other categories.

I would have probably thrown away all of the jewelry in your screenshots almost immediately.

That Songye shield has only one category I would consider good - HT damage. And that is the only one at one percent. No amount of boost from an artifact will convince me to use any of those 4 units. So trash as well, in spite of a fantastically lucky roll on the percents side. And that is my complaint about all these extra categories being added - the odds of getting something good with good boosts is ridiculous.

Hahahaha. If I had 30-35% all resources with another 10-15% oil looted, I'd take them over these, too. Do you honestly believe that we're all getting those kinds of amazing offers and we're just been ignoring them all this time? I can only choose from those I've been offered and I hadn't been offered anything better than these that I'm using, so you'd be a fool to throw them away and sit around with 0% boosts hoping to get something better, some day, maybe. As I've already pointed out and you actually confirmed, the one I got just the other day is better than anything that I've ever been offered before. Maybe the reason you think it's impossible to improve is that you already have fantastically high-level jewelry? The odds of you getting anything better may be small, but for the rest of us who haven't been as lucky, we're still getting better offers than what we already have. Essentially your complaint is that you've already won the lottery and anything less than a $100 million payout is junk. Try to gain some perspective.

agree Yemen. The last artifact is 100% for the bin. Nothing that will really help in battle

Wouldn't that depend entirely on which troops you use for battle? If you use the troops, it'll help you. If you don't use the troops, it won't help you. Why is this so difficult to understand?

I've been a member of this forum for a while now, but I've only recently started posting, because I've never really found the community particular helpful or inviting, and the constant Nexon-bashing is pretty tiresome. Now that I am posting, I find the experience even worse than my initial impressions. So far, I've been told that the best artifiacts that I've ever been offered are junk, won't help, should be tossed in the bin, etc. like it's my fault I don't get better offers. Personally, I think it's great that you're all getting such amazing wonderful high-level artifacts that do so many wonderful things for you. I just don't see the point in tearing other people down for not being as fortunate. It sounds kind of snobby.
 
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yemen

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Not saying don't use them instead of something better. I kept the first one I found that had 6% all resources on the first line, then replaced it with the first that had 11% resources on the first line, and then kept looking until I found one worth upgrading further. Your upgrade style matches mine. But if you have generated a lot of artifacts and those are the best jewelry you had generated so far, that is quite a run of bad luck. I wouldn't have recommended investing resources into upgrading those before the change, now I don't really know what to say, and is why I don't like the new changes.

That discrepancy / lottery is why I hate the museum. It isn't fair, and the mechanism isn't fun. I would suggest removing it entirely and just boosting loot for everyone to a fair and even number - those loot boosts are the only part I appreciate. How you feel about my jewelry, I feel about others plane HP boosts.

If you use those units, that weapon artifact could be good for you. No argument there. But those troops are currently weak compared to the alternatives, with occasional special case exceptions. None will form a significant percentage of your army, so can't compare to boosts on core units like howitzers, fighters, or ranged infantry.
 
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