Embassy coalitions and generals

[Arminius]

In war I just attacked with my 3 generals (lvl 36, lvl 32, lvl 21) the enemy castle with 3 generals (lvl 29, lvl 27, lvl 27).
These lower 3 generals killed mine within seconds, even setting a decoy did not help to prevent the massacre.
In the library I have all general upgrades and I guess the other player (he is 20 levels above myself, but same age) does have all general upgrades as well.

The other player had the Maori coalition with +39% defender bonus (attack bonus + health).
Since this is the only explanation for the weak performance of my better generals, does anybody know if the Maori bonus counts for defending generals as well?

Regards from Germany,
Armin

 

[Manifesto]

Was the castle shooting at you too?
Did the defending Generals have a retinue?

 

[Arminius]

Yes, the defending generals did have a retinue. I am not sure about the castle.
I have watched the replay several times. The only possible explanation - beside the Maori bonus where I am unsure if it counts for defending generals as well - is that the defending generals attacked my generals together. This means 3 defenders killed my 1st, then 2nd and then the 3rd general while my generals were doing ... something.
Unfortunately the replay is gone since we started a new war already.

But the decisive question is still not answered:
Does the defensive Maori bonus count for defending generals?
There is no limitation on Maori for special types of units. The description says +X% attack damage for defenders.

 

[Necksahn]

I would think it is all defenders which would include Generals. That would explain what happened to you (assuming their generals also focused on one general at a time Andrew your were spreading their damage).

 

[Mcnasty]

Defending generals are always stronger for some reason. Try it in a friendly challenge.

 

[yemen]

Defending generals bring along machine guns, which suppress the attacking generals, and the fort behind them is shooting at your attacking generals as well. So unless your generals have good support, one on one at the same level they will lose.

It is also quite likely the defenders were all targeting the same general (closest), while your other generals were targeting a building or wall until they started getting attacked. Your generals typically have a target before the enemy generals spawn, and they don't change targets until attacked or the target is destroyed (or a well timed speed rally resets their targetting). Decoys are good, but need to be dropped before the generals are actually engaged with your troops; I have noticed that defenders don't always switch targets to the decoy when actively fighting with troops already.

I believe the maori boost also applies to them. It definitely applies to stronghold troops. But it isn't completely clear, as the only coalition that calls out generals specifically is the ethiopians, which boosts attack on the attackers generals.

 

[Quovatis]

The machine guns make your generals only do 50% damage, so be sure to take them out first.