Heavy tanks r the worst defenders

[Atinyfish1386]

Iv been on vacation for few weeks so I'm just getting back to my complaints of certain units. This one is as stated. I have come to the point that I wish I'd never put out a 2nd bunker. It's awful having to kill off an army let alone your own heavy tanks on top of it. Somthing needs to be done I'm posting this clip of my war atta knin my current war. And in this clip I convert 2 heavy tanks and destroy this guys town center. But in my league base people steal my heavy tanks all the time. Somthing needs to be done about this issue https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ESKnY7RK1eo maybe I'm just complaining but I feel that betrayal is to good check out the clip feel free to tell me I'm nuts. I have been converting many of your heavy tanks so yes I'm doing the same thing to others but that doesn't make it any more fare. So that saying if you can't beat them join them. So my betrayal is about to be maxed out so beware I'm coming for you. For the rest of my war replays ect of special units here's the other link. https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCj36In48BZGKSSrrnfVcAzw this guy attacked me had 4 betrayals 2 sab 10
Howitzers 45 riflemen alliance troops 3 flame tanks and still lost. It's worth watch but my point still stands betrayal is way to strong https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCJop6b44w

 

[Königsberg]

I think they are good defenders. Not everyone has a Betrayal always handy.

 

[Max_imus]

Iv been on vacation for few weeks so I'm just getting back to my complaints of certain units. This one is as stated. I have come to the point that I wish I'd never put out a 2nd bunker. It's awful having to kill off an army let alone your own heavy tanks on top of it. Somthing needs to be done I'm posting this clip of my war atta knin my current war. And in this clip I convert 2 heavy tanks and destroy this guys town center. But in my league base people steal my heavy tanks all the time. Somthing needs to be done about this issue https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ESKnY7RK1eo maybe I'm just complaining but I feel that betrayal is to good check out the clip feel free to tell me I'm nuts. I have been converting many of your heavy tanks so yes I'm doing the same thing to others but that doesn't make it any more fare. So that saying if you can't beat them join them. So my betrayal is about to be maxed out so beware I'm coming for you. For the rest of my war replays ect of special units here's the other link. https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCj36In48BZGKSSrrnfVcAzw

I think that bunkers put off a lot of attackers who dont have betrayal

 

[Magnifico]

I think that bunkers put off a lot of attackers who dont have betrayal

Right, but what does that get you? In the higher medal ranges, at least, somebody is going to attack you within a few minutes of you closing the app. So if the first attacker doesn't have a Betrayal tactic or two handy, 45 seconds later another attacker will scout you. So maybe you get an extra - what? - maybe two or three minutes of being scouted before somebody who is packing Betrayal comes along. Sure, it might be expensive for an attacker to burn a lot of tactics taking you out, but, again, what does that get you? Even if you get the exact same attacker next time, your peace treaty will have given them ample time to recharge all their tactics and whatnot even if they aren't just crowning them back instantly.

 

[Atinyfish1386]

Every one that attacks me has betrayals https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MzCJop6b44w check that replay of a guy attacking me. He used lev 30,20 general 4 betrayals 2 sab 10 howitzers 45 riflemen alliance troops 3 flame tanks and still lost its really bad atta k

 

[BV123]

I think they are good defenders. Not everyone has a Betrayal always handy.

In multiplayer... yes it is a good deterrence to attackers. They may not have a betrayal handy or just not willing to use it and prefer to move on to the next base.

But in wars... it is a different situation all together, whereby your opponent can scout your base beforehand. And yes I like to target my betrayal on their HTs. Even with the betrayal dps and hp reduction, it is still a force to be reckoned with.
Maybe nexon did not think this through carefully before introducing both entities. Betrayal and bunkers.
I don't know what can be done to rectify for a more balanced game play. Maybe nerf the betrayal dps and hp. Or just nerf the HT that comes out of the bunker.

(Oooo....and I can just imagine the cursing under their breath of some people as they read this post for another nerf. Buahahaha)

 

[Quang t legend]

betrayal tactics is weird for a game of war. It cost an attacker 1 tactics for 1 weak HT is good enough, just make sure you don't let them inside the wall! If you don't believe in HT you don't build bunkers, or don't refill them in town base. But in this case the attackers will have sabotage for every of your mortars instead!

 

[USA Elite Will]

Always place 2 anti tank guns next to each bunker.

 

[Magnifico]

In multiplayer... yes it is a good deterrence to attackers. They may not have a betrayal handy or just not willing to use it and prefer to move on to the next base.

People keep saying this, but I don't think it's really true. It will deter individual attackers, sure, but that doesn't mean you don't get attacked. It just means you don't get attacked by that particular attacker. You will still get attacked within a minute or two of closing the app, even if your bunkers make one or two people pass on your base first.

 

[Atinyfish1386]

Great point will Iv allways tried to get at least 1 so I have re done my base since posting this post

 

[JMoney]

Betrayal has to work on heavy tanks. Otherwise enlightenment age players would never even be able to attack an industrial guy who invests 100k oil into one bunker. They'd only be met with death.

 

[BV123]

Always place 2 anti tank guns next to each bunker.

That's what I do. But you could always wait for the HT to come out of range before betraying it tho.

 

[vincentdang4]

In low medals, bunkers are great deterrence to attacks; with so many easy targets, why waste energy attacking folks with bunkers? In high medals, with a significantly smaller pool of players, it is just a matter of time before someone attacks you (I was so surprised when my base lasted 45 minutes once). Like many others, I wonder whether my bunkers are a liability, since those without the ability to deal with them would "pass" my base, thereby exposing me to the guys and gals carrying betrayals and maybe 4 other tactics.

 

[BV123]

People keep saying this, but I don't think it's really true. It will deter individual attackers, sure, but that doesn't mean you don't get attacked. It just means you don't get attacked by that particular attacker. You will still get attacked within a minute or two of closing the app, even if your bunkers make one or two people pass on your base first.

Yes I know.... I'm not saying it will prevent all attackers... only a handful but surely you have other stuffs going on your base that will deter different handful of players. It is the whole package thingy. A bunker alone will not make or break a deal. The idea is to make your base not worth the rss or trouble to attack to as many people as possible when all they have to do is press the 'next' button to find an easier prey.

 

[vincentdang4]

This doesn't matter in high medal leagues. Even if I only had 20k rss to take, someone will attack me within 30 minutes after logging off LOL

 

[Mr Suplex]

I've always thought that Betrayal working on heavy tanks is stupid.

 

[BV123]

Lol VD... I'm taking about us lowly common folks. Up there, it is a whole different ball game. All that counts is medals...lol

 

[Atinyfish1386]

Yea I just got off and in 3 min I got attacked I have 2550 medals

 

[USA Elite Will]

People keep saying this, but I don't think it's really true. It will deter individual attackers, sure, but that doesn't mean you don't get attacked. It just means you don't get attacked by that particular attacker. You will still get attacked within a minute or two of closing the app, even if your bunkers make one or two people pass on your base first.

I have played at 3180 medals.

I have played at 1600 medals.

And I have played at 200 medals.

... all in the pass 2 weeks.

In Dynasty 1 with in 90 seconds of logging off you will be attacked by the kitchen sink.

In Gold 2 it may take 45 - 120 minutes to be attacked, mostly snipers. They don't care for the resources, just want the medals.

At 200 medals, you will never get a treaty, you will be attack often but these will be all defense wins for you because the attacker just wants your resources and could care less about your undefended TC by itself.

 

[Königsberg]

I don't see the point of betrayal when you can't use it on HT. Betrayal would be such a useless tactic then.