medal dropping

[shukra]

medal dropping ... placing one infantry just to intentionally lose and drop medals.... is a not-fun mechanic.
i hear the designer's argument that we should just play ... and win/lose as it goes ... but given the consequences of losing planes it's not rational.
smart players (especially german) will intentionally do a losing streak to fight at a specific desired range.
.... and it's boring, really boring.

we should have the ability to drop medals with a touch ... and make it more appealing to be at higher medals through the rewards boat or other incentive.
since this is a fundamental consideration, it seems unrealistic, a big change. however, imo it would be better.

 

[LordTywin242AC]

boring rollercoaster.

Easy now fellah!

I thrive on destroying weak bases and I find it fun dropping medals using Raiders and getting 11% destruction to activate opponent's blessings.

 

[pckrn]

the last few days, medal dropping is a nightmare. For the first time, I dropped to 400 medals just to see how things are so low. And guess what? Within 24 hours, I was back at 1200 medals. Without actually having played a single battle. I was attacked 43 times!!! All by players using 1 soldier and sometimes by a few raiders. WTF?? People at 500-600 medals wanna drop even more?? This is not good for anyone. Now I have to spend another 2-3 hours to drop back to 500 medals. This can't go on though on a daily basis.

have you tried:

place the town center, missile silo, rocket arsenal at the very edge of the map and next to each other

protect all resources

do not rearm traps

no alliance troops defending, no defensive blessings.

the goal is to trick a sucker into attacking your base with a full army and getting a treaty so that raiders and other droppers cannot get you

 

[Manifesto]

I recommend leaving TC, silo exposed too, but what about also a mill/market or 2 for your fellow raider?

 

[shukra]

i use my ww base as my town base ... so protected tc and exposed resources, though i do protect the oil refinery.
this setup generates crowns, as ppl raid my base and get chewed up, *without* generating a treaty.

pckrn: yes it does which isn't what i want ... but i find the crown generation is worth the extra manual medal dropping.

 

[pckrn]

but he wants to stay at low medals. protecting resources is not really about protecting resources. its about keeping out raiders and the unwanted medal gain that they bring. if you want to ‘give back to the community’ come up with a base design that lets attackers have relatively easy access to the resources AFTER they go through your town center.

 

[pckrn]

it also generates medals

 

[oddin]

my TC is exposed at the edge of the map. Everything else is safely inside 3 layers of city walls.
Some people try to snipe my TC but even that fails sometimes.

 

[pckrn]

wrathchild_78 just the tc being exposed probably wont be enough to lure treaty-giving attackers in low medals. im surprised there are any tc snipers at all down there. you should really make them believe they can take on your base if you want to stay down there. dont think like you normally would. think like a silver league native will think.

 

[No Angel]

How about a large square layout? So place everything you want, but still looking like you are protecting your oil and town center, so they are still in the middle inside your town. I'm a low medal player, and this is the kind of base that even I -a medal dropper don't want to only drop 1 infantry and leave. I will drop my whole army, get full destruction and it will give you treaty.
Especially if you're German I like hunting salt.
But drop your medals first, so below 1000

 

[albynos]

Just for my understanding, why do you feel the need to drop your medals? Is there a place in which nexon or whoever says that multiplayer battles players are matched as per medals#? Maybe it is true I admit to miss some info, but if it is like that there could be the chance for a lv.250 with 800 medals to be matched with a lv100 with 800 medals..this never happen as I'm always matched with players that are +/- 50 lvs away from me.
I'm currently lv 207 and I get people from lv 170 to lv 250. In addition to the above I do not recall if while attacking a player you can see the n°of medals he has...I don't think so.

Honestly I'm happy when I get hit by a medal dropper because usually he stoles only the "not-collected" resources and make my medals count raise to get more bonus from the battles, daily ships and so on....

 

[oddin]

I get matched with all kinds of levels (140-300). The league they are can be seen right next to their name.
I feel the need to drop medals because otherwise I reach 2000 easily and things there are much harder. Every battle requires almost everything and the losses are too many and have to wait several hours again in order to play. So, I prefer easier targets and more loot per hour.

 

[No Angel]

albynos
Yes MP is based on medals/leagues.
Proof : KA Naul a level 300 (with 400 medal) could find one of mine, level 160 (with 500 medal).

Nexon never said it officially, but thats is how MP algorithm was set.

Anyways, a feature to keep our medals at certain limits is cool, sounds handy, I won't mind.
​​​​​​​But it will get rid of old school medal dropping method which I've been doing for long

 

[pckrn]

if you’re atomic, the matches will always be global to cwa whether you’re in a high league or a low league.

but you can expect a lv200 base in kingdom league to be much more difficult than a lv200 base in silver league.

 

[albynos]

@ pckrn: as far as I understood medals raise and drop just for your attack/defense activity. Said that I don't get why lv200 base in kingdom league is much more difficult than a lv200 base in silver league.
What if I take 200 attacks per day and win all, and just get hit by 3 attackers a day.
I'll be able to raise my medals without having a solid base so why it should be harder to attack? I can raise my medals without having a single wall or defense units!

@ wrathchild_78: I do agree with you about match lvls...regarding the league I'll have a look. Based on your statement as i'm "kingdom I" am I supposed to be matched only with kingdom league players? And what about the ages that pckrn was referring to? What if a industrial age lvl 100 is in kingdom league? am I supposed to be matched with him? I don't think so or at least it never happened to me.

@no_angel: if nexon never said that I really do not get how can we be so sure. The fact that lv 300 can match you 160 is possible, the point is that one single match does not make the rule.

I respect all of your statements and they will be more likely true than mine, but I won't be 100% sure. In any case I personally have more fun in attacking strong players, maybe risking to loose everything than weak guys...also because typically strong players have biggers lots....

 

[oddin]

I don't understand @Albynos... 100% players that are in the same league and have 1 age difference can and will be matched against each other in regular multiplayer battles.
I am cwa and get matched with global age players 140-160 many times. I don't get industrial age bases because it is 3 ages below me BUT my low level accounts can attack whatever base they want. From gunpowder to cwa!!! The loot is simply awesome there!

 

[albynos]

ok got it, players within the same league and with maximum one age of difference. I'm trying to get into the reign league also because of the big bonuses involved (in addition to the crown reward). As soon as I get there (I've around 2550 medals) I'll try to drop them

 

[oddin]

yes there is no point in doing battles that high unless you want to complete the achievements. After the rebalance stages, this achievement became a lot harder imho

 

[pckrn]

I'm trying to get into the reign league also because of the big bonuses involved (in addition to the crown reward). As soon as I get there (I've around 2550 medals) I'll try to drop them

you can see for yourself then.
look at your matches in 2550 and compare them to the matches you get in 3200.
3200 will be much more difficult than 2550.
if you find that its a bit more difficult, but still not so bad, good for you.
if you find that although 3200 is doable, you’d rather prey on the easier targets in 2550, that is why you medal drop.


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and you can be matched outside your league, just not too far. i.e. in dynasty2 you can get matched with dynasty1 to empire1