Museum Fragments Being Stolen

[LordAnubis]

Yup its the new low. TC destruction raids to steal mysterious museum fragments.

A recent raid yielded the attacker 27. As a result my storage of mysterious was lowered by 27. The attacker also did not have the museum repaired but my fragments were still lowered as a result.

Is this expected?

 

[Manifesto]

Where’s The Fudge?

 

[Bedlam]

Yep...I've stolen and had stolen pieces.

 

[Ulysses]

Interesting! Which building do you have to hit to pick up museum fragments? What kind of ratio did they steal from you? I'm guessing attackers mostly steal from the 'uncollected' fragments, kinda like they do for gold, oil, etc?

 

[yemen]

The attacker gets some fragments for a victory, and that shows in the log, but I don't seem to lose any when that happens.

I also don't get any extras based on whether my opponent has the museum completed, and thus could store or generate any fragments. Just the number you earn based on # of stars gotten and relative level.

As far as I can tell, they operate like NTGs - you win them, but the other side doesn't lose them.If it really is working the other way for some people, that sounds like a bug.

 

[Bedlam]

The town centre

 

[Bedlam]

Not sure of the ratio . Ibe been converting the pieces as soon as I get 100

 

[LordAnubis]

Bedlam this a whole new dynamic to the game where you have to protect TC in multiplayer. fk

 

[Mcnasty]

Isn’t the whole game based around protecting your TC?

 

[Ulysses]

Not always, McNasty... Let's say you're holding 200k oil, which you've got well protected with traps. But your trap blessing only lasts for 3x attacks. And you have a real life and can't login every 2 hours to reset that trap blessing... You might put your tc in a real easy place to hit, to score a 12 hour peace treaty from the next attacker. Let the tc go. Your oil is waaay more valuable... But even then, the most museum fragments I've been able to steal is 27, which is no biggie to lose. The game gives you 25 fragments every hour for free

 

[Bedlam]

I always leave my TC out for and easy peace treaty.

 

[sileepuppee]

I have not noticed anyone taking the fragments as a part of raiding. Probably a bug in the game. When i raid bases and get the 5 star, I almost always get a set amount of fragments every attack. Generally 10 is I attack a global than it was 25 for aa. I feel like if I were taking a chunk from that player it would be random amounts not set amounts unless set amounts are what is supposed to be taken. I actually dont know what determines the amount given whether it be the age/level of the base. My alliance members who are industrial reported getting 70 for hitting global bases but not always so it's still quite odd.

 

[yemen]

10/40/70 is for 5* on a base 1age down / same age / 1 age up. Less than 5 stars gets a percentage of that.

 

[Saruman the White]

If you lose 30 fragments because of an attack at the Town Center, it only takes an hour to replenish the lost resources, so no worries at all.

 

[TinSoldier]

I'm looking into this today. It should not be the case that you lose Mysterious Fragments after you are attacked.

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

But why is it not consistent? As far as I can tell across hundreds of attacks since the update I haven't stolen fragments from anyone. Yet the last three attacks against my tc have coughed up extra fragments for my opponents. TinSoldier can we get an official explanation please.

 

[Manifesto]

I say make the museum attackable and make the artifacts 'stealable'.
Spoils of war, I say!

 

[Bootney Lee Fonsworth]

I'd be fine with Manifesto's suggestion as long as it applied to everyone. The issue at hand is why some people are inexplicably able to steal fragments while others aren't. I have yet to steal any extra fragments across three accounts and sometimes people get them from me, sometimes they don't. It's almost like these things aren't tested one bit before being sprung on us, but that's just crazy talk, right? RIGHT?!?!?

 

[yemen]

The initial description by LordAnubis, of an attacker gaining 27 fragments by sniping his town center, is exactly what should happen if a one age lower attacker sniped his town center for two stars. They can get up to 70 for a 5 star win, but there is a proportional reduction for fewer stars.

If it was exactly 27 the lower age attacker gained for getting 2*, and he did not lose any, then this is working as expected. If he actually did lose some, then there is clearly something wrong - but it isn't that the attacker got more than he should have, just that he should not have lost any.

Does someone have a before and after screenshot of their museum, showing the number of fragments available, plus a screenshot of the attack showing the extras stolen? It would be nice to see documentation that demonstrates it happening. I have multiple attacks in my log showing others got fragments, but the total in my museum has never been reduced by that number.

I'm wondering if this is similar to all the complaints about NTGs being stolen once people finished Moctezuma and the log showed attackers earning a random NTG. Many assumed that was being stolen too.

 

[Manifesto]

right.